Sep 10, 2007 13:52
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The first European settlers in America
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THE PILGRIM FATHERS
1:53 timestamp. It seems that the determiner 'their' does not fit the noun 'wife' here. I can't though hear nothing else in this case. Is this really a mistake made by Kathleen?
MELVYN BRAGG: ... Kathleen Burk, the Pilgrim Fathers arrived in Plymouth in America in 1620. They are often seen of as the first British European settlers in America, which isn’t true. Can you give us a sense of who was actually there, already there in 1620?
KATHLEEN BURK: Well, of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims 1:25 ((could read out)) about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of Southern and Central America and indeed was as far-- the Florida was ((ruled)) by Spain. And Americans, as you point right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted 1:53 ((their)) wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--. It wasn’t colonists, it was soldiers and it was gentry who did not think it behove them to work. And so therefore the Jamestown settlement struggled until 1620-21, which of course is when the Pilgrim Fathers arrived.
You can listen to the programme here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_2007...
MELVYN BRAGG: ... Kathleen Burk, the Pilgrim Fathers arrived in Plymouth in America in 1620. They are often seen of as the first British European settlers in America, which isn’t true. Can you give us a sense of who was actually there, already there in 1620?
KATHLEEN BURK: Well, of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims 1:25 ((could read out)) about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of Southern and Central America and indeed was as far-- the Florida was ((ruled)) by Spain. And Americans, as you point right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted 1:53 ((their)) wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--. It wasn’t colonists, it was soldiers and it was gentry who did not think it behove them to work. And so therefore the Jamestown settlement struggled until 1620-21, which of course is when the Pilgrim Fathers arrived.
You can listen to the programme here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_2007...
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Well, ONE of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims WERE WORRIED about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of Southern and Central America and indeed was as far-- the Florida was ruled by Spain. And Americans, as you'RE QUITE right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted their wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--. It wasn’t colonists, it was soldiers and it was gentry who did not think it behove them to work. And so therefore the Jamestown settlement struggled until 1620-21, which of course is when the Pilgrim Fathers arrived.
I think the others are right.
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Note added at 9 mins (2007-09-10 14:01:56 GMT)
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Well, ONE of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims WERE WORRIED about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of Southern and Central America and indeed was as far-- the Florida was ruled by Spain. And Americans, as you'RE QUITE right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted their wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--. It wasn’t colonists, it was soldiers and it was gentry who did not think it behove them to work. And so therefore the Jamestown settlement struggled until 1620-21, which of course is when the Pilgrim Fathers arrived.
I think the others are right.
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See explanation below...
I hear:
"Well, of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims WERE WORRIED about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of SOUTH and Central America and indeed was as far-- the... Florida was RULED by Spain. And Americans, as you point right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted THEIR wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--."
It is indeed a slip by Kathleen — that's why she immediately corrects herself by saying "...one of them did"
"Well, of the earliest Pilgrim leaders, William Bradford, referred to the vast and unpeopled continent, countries of America. And this was not true, as you say. The French were in Canada, and indeed the Pilgrims WERE WORRIED about being attacked by them. Spain locked up all of SOUTH and Central America and indeed was as far-- the... Florida was RULED by Spain. And Americans, as you point right, Americans do forget about Jamestown, because the English colonised Virginia in 1607. This was not a good precedent, because after the first year four hundred colonists only forty were left alive, after what was called the starving time, when they cut up and salted THEIR wife, one of them did. But the problem with Jamestown and-- was that--."
It is indeed a slip by Kathleen — that's why she immediately corrects herself by saying "...one of them did"
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