Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Grüner Pansen
English translation:
green paunch or green rumen
Added to glossary by
Marion Schick
Jan 30, 2009 14:11
15 yrs ago
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German term
Grüner Pansen
German to English
Other
Livestock / Animal Husbandry
dog food
Hello there,
and it is me again ... With the 2nd phrase that I am desperately searching a translation for.
The text is, again, about dog food and its ingredients, so it is just quoted there as one of many without further context. The product seems to be common in German, but I've got absolutely no idea which term is the right one in English. And once again, I'd be really grateful for your help. Best regards,
Marion
and it is me again ... With the 2nd phrase that I am desperately searching a translation for.
The text is, again, about dog food and its ingredients, so it is just quoted there as one of many without further context. The product seems to be common in German, but I've got absolutely no idea which term is the right one in English. And once again, I'd be really grateful for your help. Best regards,
Marion
Proposed translations
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| 4 | green paunch or green rumen |
Stephen Sadie
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| 4 | green tripe |
Andrea Winzer
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Proposed translations
9 mins
Stephen Sadie
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
Practical business experience, reliable
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English to German
Related KudoZ points
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20
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green paunch or green rumen
Try new Pedigree Pure! 100% natural meaty chunks Varied selection of meats Made with fresh meat Free from artifical colourings No sugar No soya.
www.cavyrescue.co.uk/products/Pedigree-Pure-6-x-400-g---Ple... - Ähnliche Seiten
Composition: Cereals and vegetable by-products (82.5%, of which wheat germ 6.0%), meat and animal by-products (15%, of which 5.0% green rumen) premixed ...
www.happydog.de/?language=GB&kat=PansenEcke - 13k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
www.cavyrescue.co.uk/products/Pedigree-Pure-6-x-400-g---Ple... - Ähnliche Seiten
Composition: Cereals and vegetable by-products (82.5%, of which wheat germ 6.0%), meat and animal by-products (15%, of which 5.0% green rumen) premixed ...
www.happydog.de/?language=GB&kat=PansenEcke - 13k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
Peer comment(s):
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Ellen Kraus
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thanks ellen
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Marga Shaw
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thanks marga
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Cetacea
: "green tripe" is much more commonly used by dog food manufacturers and veterinarians. See e.g. http://www.thedogbowl.com/PPF/category_ID/0_84/dogbowl.asp //Marion needs the term used by the industry in the U.K and U.S.; one of your links is a translation
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TonyTK
: Sorry, but can't find a single kosher hit for "green paunch" in this context. Your uk site is actually a translation (the tin's in German); and just the one English-language hit for "green rumen" in a dogfood context ... // Touché!
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I cannot imagine Pansen being kosher in the literal sense!
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Andrea Winzer
: This term seems very much "translated" and does not get any serious Ghits.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge and ideas and spending your time! "
8 mins
Andrea Winzer
United States
United States
Native in German
Specializes in field
United States
Top Quality: Fast, reliable & certified
Native in: German 
Works in: English to German, German to English, Latin to German, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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35
green tripe
Der grüne Pansen wird als „grün“ bezeichnet, da dieser nur grob gereinigt wird, um die Futterrückstände in der Mageninnenwand zu erhalten. Dieses Grün ist das besonders Gesunde für Hunde!
http://www.carnes-doggi.de/produkte.php
Tripe is the stomach lining of the cow’s “fourth” stomach, or abomassum. The abomassum is where the actual digestion of the grasses and grains the cow has ingested takes place. Green tripe contains the partially digested plant matter the cow had eaten as well as the naturally occurring gastric juices and digestive enzymes.
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=6...
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Rinderpansen 18Kg getrocknet Rinder Pansen dried tripe
http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3203062736...
http://www.basu-kraft.de/katalog.pdf
http://books.google.de/books?id=OHJZusvpigYC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA...
http://www.carnes-doggi.de/produkte.php
Tripe is the stomach lining of the cow’s “fourth” stomach, or abomassum. The abomassum is where the actual digestion of the grasses and grains the cow has ingested takes place. Green tripe contains the partially digested plant matter the cow had eaten as well as the naturally occurring gastric juices and digestive enzymes.
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=6...
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Rinderpansen 18Kg getrocknet Rinder Pansen dried tripe
http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3203062736...
http://www.basu-kraft.de/katalog.pdf
http://books.google.de/books?id=OHJZusvpigYC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA...
Peer comment(s):
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Ellen Kraus
: tripe is not the same as rumen its translation into German would be
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Sorry, but you are wrong! Kutteln (auch Kaldaunen, Fleck, Löser, Pansen oder Rumen) ist die küchensprachliche Bezeichnung für den gewöhnlich in Streifen geschnittenen Vormagen von Wiederkäuern. Please check befor you post !!
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Cetacea
: Absolutely correct. See also e.g. http://www.truecarnivores.com/greentripe.shtml
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Thank you, Cetacea :))
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Stephen Sadie
: sorry, but ellen is right - just because many dog food producers make a mistake, we need not
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I am afraid that you do not understand the German term "Pansen" in this context correctly. Your suggestion may be literal, but does not produce many acceptable Ghits.
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TonyTK
: This appears to be what they're talking about. Moreover, it reflects standard usage - and is what any consumer who cared to read the label would expect to see.
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Reference comments
17 mins
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Reference:
[ Diese Seite übersetzen ]25 Dec 2008 ... The rumen, also known as a paunch, forms the larger part of the reticulorumen, which is the first chamber in the alimentary canal of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumen - 38k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
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replying to Andrea: thanks for the link, but to my regre the correspoding pages 178-179 are not part of the book´s preview by Google. It was primarily the combination of green and tripe that struck me as extremely unusual for Germanphone ears. If I went to the butcher´s to buy green trippa, I am sure he wouldnt understand. In German we call the Kaldaunen either <geputzte oder ungeputzte Kuttelfleck>. but also in Italy, the client - when asking for trippa - automatically gets the cleaned ones. Trippa verde or trippa al verde is interpreted as trippa prepared with vegetables (both for humans and animals). When I said <tripe is not rumen > I had in mind the obvious discrepancies between anglophone, German and/or Italian usage; and, in addition the clash between science and practice. Also, nichts für ungut and dont take it so personal.
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Sorry for the omissions in the above text. but for the time being I am having difficulties when posting additional info. whole parts of the sentence tend to disappear, the text is distorted. I would have to repeat everything again, but even if I did so, there is no guarantee that some words will not disappear. Above it should read <when I said green tripe is not rumen> .....
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< gree tripe is not rumen >
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also letters in a word keep disappearing. Have already informed the Kudoz support centre, but so far of no avail.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumen - 38k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
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replying to Andrea: thanks for the link, but to my regre the correspoding pages 178-179 are not part of the book´s preview by Google. It was primarily the combination of green and tripe that struck me as extremely unusual for Germanphone ears. If I went to the butcher´s to buy green trippa, I am sure he wouldnt understand. In German we call the Kaldaunen either <geputzte oder ungeputzte Kuttelfleck>. but also in Italy, the client - when asking for trippa - automatically gets the cleaned ones. Trippa verde or trippa al verde is interpreted as trippa prepared with vegetables (both for humans and animals). When I said <tripe is not rumen > I had in mind the obvious discrepancies between anglophone, German and/or Italian usage; and, in addition the clash between science and practice. Also, nichts für ungut and dont take it so personal.
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Sorry for the omissions in the above text. but for the time being I am having difficulties when posting additional info. whole parts of the sentence tend to disappear, the text is distorted. I would have to repeat everything again, but even if I did so, there is no guarantee that some words will not disappear. Above it should read <when I said green tripe is not rumen> .....
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< gree tripe is not rumen >
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also letters in a word keep disappearing. Have already informed the Kudoz support centre, but so far of no avail.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Cetacea
: If I ordered "trippa al verde" at a restaurant and got "Grüner Pansen", I'd be very surprised to say the least. This is about dog food."green tripe" is what all the major dog food manufacturers call it.//But "grüner Pansen" is not. Unless you're a dog...
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if you ordered trippa al verde (in Italy) you would be served a delicacy, i.e. trippa with vegetables.
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Andrea Winzer
: I do not take it personally at all, but why should I accept a wrong answer ?! Maybe the German word "Pansen" is in this context not correctly chosen, because we are talking dog food here and I can't image that only the anatomical part of "rumen" is used.
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Pansen is correctly chosen here, what I wanted to point out that the term trippa in conjunction with |
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Stephen Sadie
: excellently argued and correct
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