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Jul 24, 2009 13:49
14 yrs ago
русский term

укрепленные линии; линия укрепления

русский => английский Техника Военное дело / Оборона fortifications
Stalin asks a Chinese official during the Korean war:

Какое количестово укрепленных линий? and is told "three".

А у вас сколько линий укрепления? and is then told "two, but a third is under construction"

Frankly, at first I was thinking of укрепление as "reinforcements" but a later reference to сооружение and техника make it clear this is about fortifications.

What I want to know is if there is any distinction between these two terms. If not, why did Stalin repeat the question (essentially getting the same, but hedged, answer)?

Discussion

GaryG (asker) Jul 24, 2009:
In response to Oleg's question The quotes from Stalin are complete and consecutive queries. I can give you the (Russian translation of) the Chinese response but it doesn't seem relevant here. The response to Stalin's 1st query is simply "3 линии".
Oleg Osipov Jul 24, 2009:
How does the original run Gary?
Angela Greenfield Jul 24, 2009:
Looks like they are talking about the same 3 defense fortifications, but the first answer is about how many are envisioned, and the second is about the actual situation. In the end, after the third line is competed, they will have 3.
GaryG (asker) Jul 24, 2009:
Yes to both Both were to the Chinese official
Angela Greenfield Jul 24, 2009:
Gary Were both questions asked by Stalin? Are both questions directed to the same answerer?

Proposed translations

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8 мин

fortified line

Peer comment(s):

neutral The Misha : No, not fortified. Wine may be fortified, not fortification lines
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agree linguist09 (X) : Русско-английский / Англо-русский военный словарь под редакцией А.Д. Кострова (страница 411)
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defense line

I am inclined to think that what is meant by "линия укрепления" is the defense line (line of defense).

line of defense - defensive structure consisting of a barrier that can be employed for defense against attack
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defensive fortification lines

a line of defensive fortifications
Peer comment(s):

agree Angela Greenfield
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Спасибо, Анжела!
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8 час

frontier line reinforcement

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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-07-24 22:44:12 GMT)
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"reinforcement"-could be anything, i.e. power line reinforcement ,a brick wall building as well as additional help in number of soldiers."Fortification" is rather about the improvement of their found position by means they have.
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