Oct 21, 2009 19:21
14 yrs ago
Finnish term
Spain
Interpretation anywhere in Europe & Asia
Native in: German 
, Spanish
Works in: German to Spanish, Spanish to German, Finnish to Spanish, and 13 more.
Tänne ei tarvita mitään uusia Nykäsiä tai Niemisiä
Finnish to English
Other
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
"Tänne ei tarvita mitään uusia Nykäsiä tai Niemisiä!"
I would like to know what is meant by the names Nykanen and Nieminen.
Context: an adult is reproching a small theft to a child.
I would like to know what is meant by the names Nykanen and Nieminen.
Context: an adult is reproching a small theft to a child.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | We don't need any more Nykänens or Nieminens here |
Owen Witesman
|
| 3 | Matti Nykänen ja Tero Nieminen |
Natalia Elo
|
Proposed translations
+1
5 mins
Owen Witesman
Native in English
Real English // Oikea englanti
Native in: English
Works in: Finnish to English, Estonian to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Selected
We don't need any more Nykänens or Nieminens here
Matti Nykänen, ski jumper known for violent behavior and drinking.
The Nieminen could be Jarkko (tennis player) or maybe Ville (NHL).
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 7 mins (2009-10-21 19:29:30 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
The Nykänen part makes total sense: don't grow up to be a criminal...
I don't really get the Nieminen part. Someone else who knows Finnish pop culture better can maybe enlighten us on some scandal involving a Nieminen. Ville is known for being a pretty tough hockey player .
The Nieminen could be Jarkko (tennis player) or maybe Ville (NHL).
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 7 mins (2009-10-21 19:29:30 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
The Nykänen part makes total sense: don't grow up to be a criminal...
I don't really get the Nieminen part. Someone else who knows Finnish pop culture better can maybe enlighten us on some scandal involving a Nieminen. Ville is known for being a pretty tough hockey player .
Note from asker:
| thank you for your very useful and quick answer! |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Antti Pyykkönen
: I think the Nieminen probably refers to Toni Nieminen, who had quite a similar start with his career as Nykänen, brilliant but lost self control quite soon after success. Gold ski jumper in Albertville 1992 at the age of 16 years.
17 mins
|
|
Thanks!
|
|
| agree |
amgt
1 hr
|
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
28 mins
Natalia Elo
Germany
Germany
Works in field
Germany
attention to detail
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Finnish to Russian, Russian to Finnish, and 3 more.
Matti Nykänen ja Tero Nieminen
To answer your question, I think the adult is refering to Matti Nykänen, a famous and extremely popular ski jumper, who got himself into lots of troubles repeatedly, and Tero Nieminen (but here I'm not sure, because Nieminen is a VERY common surname), who openly admited on TV using cannabis for many years and got prosecuted for that.
Note from asker:
| thank you for your very useful answer! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Timo Lehtilä
: Most probably. Because the referred kinds of Nykänens and Nieminens are unknown to English readers, some descriptive adjective should be added: lewd, obscene, wanton… Nykänens and...added
11 hrs
|
| disagree |
Alfa Trans (X)
: My justification was not linguistic, but nor is the question really - I'm sorry to disagree but I've never heard of Tero.
17 hrs
|
Discussion
Alejandro
Lisäisin vielä, että Nykänen-ilmiöstä on tullut suorastaan yleiskäsite suomessa eli monesti puhutaan nykäsistä pienellä n:llä. Toni Nieminen ei ole vielä päässyt tälle tasolle, mutta oli aikanaan myös omanlaisensa ilmiö, koska hän voitti suurmäen kultamitalin vain 16-vuotiaana Albertvillen talviolympialaisissa.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/17/sports/albertville-too-you...
<br>Everybody knows their story in Finland and they are often referred to in everyday conversations. IMHO the idea is that the two names should have something in common. There are many famous men called Nieminen, but none of them are linked with Matti Nykänen the way that Toni Nieminen is: they were not only skijumpers, but also young achievers who had some difficulties due to the fact that teenagers are usually too young to handle fame.