Feb 10, 2010 17:14
14 yrs ago
English term

baby take-home

English to Greek Medical Medical (general) Infertility
In the phrase
There was no dose relationship in rates of implantation, pregnancy, ongoing pregnancy, live birth or **baby take-home**.

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ποσοστό τελειόμηνης κύησης επιτυχούς έκβασης/ποσοστό γέννησης ζώντος νεογνού

Μερικές ιδέες, Σοφία... ανάλογα με το κείμενό σου... το σημαντικό είναι να μην υπάρχει θνησιγενές νεογνό... αν η κύηση δεν είναι τελειόμηνος, αλλά το νεογνό είναι ζωντανό, έστω και πριν την 275η ημέρα, πιστεύω πάλι για take-home baby μπορούμε να μιλάμε... η δε επιτυχής έκβαση, μιλώντας για κύκλους IVF, δεν μπορεί να είναι άλλη από τη γέννηση ζώντος...


In fact, the take-home baby rate is the percentage of women who, once pregnant, carry the baby to term...
www.newscientist.com/.../mg18625014.300-can-embryoscreening... -
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625014.300-can-embry...


"...the pregnancy rate per retrieval does not give an indication of the proportion of couples obtaining a ""live birth"", since a proportion of clinical pregnancies end in foetal death (miscarriage, extra-uterine pregnancy, still-birth). To obtain an overall measurement of the success of IVF, it is necessary to estimate the rate of attempts leading to "'"at least one live birth"" as a proportion of the total attempts in which a follicular aspiration was practised. This rate is called the “take home baby rate” and stands at between 15% and 20% of retrievals, on the FIVNAT database..."
The percentage of children born through IVF is strongly associated with the ... This rate is called the “take home baby rate” and stands at between 15% and ...
www.cairn.info › Discipline › Revue › Sommaire

A study of 289 clinic members of the Society for Assisted Reproduction (SART) with web sites reported that only 22% provided live birth or “take home baby” ...
www.ivf-et.com/successrates_latest.html -
http://www.ivf-et.com/successrates_latest.html.

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(1993) ανέφερε ελαττωμένο ποσοστό κλινικών κυήσεων και αυξημένο ποσοστό ...... Furthermore, the outcome of this technique in term of “take home baby” after ...
reproduction.med.duth.gr/book%20of%20abstracts.doc
http://reproduction.med.duth.gr/book of abstracts.doc.

το ακόλουθο είναι ενδιαφέρον... μιλάει για κλινική, βιοχημική και τελειόμηνο κύηση...

εξελιχθεί σε αυτόματη έκτρωση, εξωμήτρια κύηση ή τελειόμηνη εγκυμοσύνη. ... (ποσοστό παιδιών που 'παίρνει κανείς σπίτι του'-'take home baby rate'). Αυτό ...
hsge.gr/pdf/1996_02.PDF

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τη διάρκεια της εμφύτευσης και την πρώιμη κύηση (early pregnancy). .... δείχνει μείωση της πιθανότητας γέννησης ζώντος νεογνού σε κύκλους IVF/ICSI ...
www.eshre.com/.../Good_Clinical_Treatment_ESHRE_Position_Pa...

Εξωσωματική (IVF). Εξωσωματική γονιμοποίηση .... η θεραπεία της υπογονιμότητας, όπως αποτυπώνεται στα τελικά ποσοστά γέννησης ζώντων νεογνών ανά προσπάθεια, ...
www.ivf-embryo.gr/.../synergasia-me-ksena-panepistimia-hamm... -
http://www.ivf-embryo.gr/arthra/synergasia-me-ksena-panepist...

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κή αύξηση στα ποσοστά γέννησης ζώντος νεογνού, σε σχέση με τα ποσοστά μετά από μεταφορά ακριβώς 5 .... and cryopreservation, are predictive for IVF success. ...
www.iatrikionline.gr/ELL_M_3_2007/4 .pdf

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24 Jan 2010 ... The most useful and meaningful is the live birth rate or “take home baby rate”. This takes into account that with any couple that becomes ...
www.docstoc.com/.../2007-IVF-Success-Rates -


... rate and the live birth rate, also known as the "take-home baby rate". ... The live birth rate is always lower than the pregnancy rate because some ...
www.babycenter.com.my/.../fertilitysuccessratesexpert/ -
http://www.babycenter.com.my/preconception/fertilitytreatmen...

κορτικοστεροειδών σε γυναίκες που υποβάλλονται σε εξωσωματική γονιμοποίηση ... στην ποιότητα των εμβρύων και στο ποσοστό των γεννηθέντων ζώντων νεογνών και ...
www.iatrikionline.gr/.../berz_A263.htm -
http://www.iatrikionline.gr/berzovitis/berz_A263.htm.

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η αναφορά σε υγιές και όχι μόνο/απλά ζωντανό νεογνό είναι ενδιαφέρουσα, αλλά οδηγεί σε άλλο επίπεδο τη συζήτηση, άλλου ύφους και προεκτάσεων... το θέμα είναι πολύ λεπτό και έχει να κάνει με το πώς ορίζεται η επιτυχία/success rate σε αυτές τις διαδικασίες... εάν αναφέρεται/περιγράφεται κάπως και κάπου στο κείμενό σου, τότε τόλμησε να συμπληρώσεις "ζώντος και υγιούς νεογνού"... εάν όχι, μην εξειδικεύεις με την παράμετρο της υγείας ένα "νεογνό έτοιμο για το σπίτι"... γιατί μετά θα πρέπει να προσδιορίσεις τι είναι υγεία και τι παθολογικό, χωρίς να έχεις τα απαραίτητα στοιχεία από το κείμενο και τρέχα γύρευε μπλέξιμο... (μια IVF δηλαδή, με κύηση τελειόμηνη, χωρίς επιπλοκές, με μη θνησιγενή έκβαση, αλλά με εξαδακτυλία λόγου χάρη, εντάσσεται στα πλαίσια της υγείας και επιτυχίας ή όχι;)

εάν έχεις χρόνο διάβασε τις δύο παρακάτω παραπομπές...

"...there is a tendency in the text to slip into use of the term ‘success rate’ as synonymous with a live birth outcome (and not only the birth of ahealthy singleton). Whilst the objective of the embryological and surgical procedures might be simply to produce healthy offspring the success of the overall clinical processmay often be broader range of outcomes than producing a ‘take home’ baby (or babies). An exclusive focus on this aspect can quickly lead to other outcomes, and the patientswho experience them, being stigmatised as ‘failures’, and contribute to the ‘league table’approach to the evaluation of clinical services. We would support this by observing thata ‘take home’ baby is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition of success in assistedconception: on the one hand, a successful outcome may equally be a patientunderstanding the underlying basis of their infertility and coming to terms with this; onthe other hand, multiple births, as the document elsewhere recognises, do notunequivocally equate to a success. Likewise, the birth of a child affected by a geneticcondition (whether inherited or spontaneously occurring) where the object of the procedure wasto avoid such a condition, would be counted as a success in terms of live birth outcome. Thisis in no way to imply, however, that the birth of a child affected by a clinical conditionfollowing assisted conception treatment is to be regarded as a ‘failure’ – it merelysuggests that the use of the language of ‘success’ is too crude given the overlappingpsychosocial and clinical-scientific registers in which this language will find its meaningsfor a variety of audiences, at least some of whom may be particularly vulnerable to theeffects of simplistic or negative connotations..."
http://www.hgc.gov.uk/UploadDocs/DocPub/Document/Response to...
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5 Jan 2009 ... term 'success rate' as synonymous with a live birth outcome (and not only the birth of a healthy singleton). Whilst the objective of the embryological and ... a 'take home' baby is neither a necessary nor sufficient ...
www.hgc.gov.uk/.../Response to HFEA 2008 consultation on cl...


Some fertility clinics are risking multiple births and long-term health problems for ... an attempt to boost their "take-home-baby" rates, a leading doctor has warned. ... live-birth rates but with live, healthy non-handicapped babies . ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../doctor-breaks-ranks-over-ivfbaby-... -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/doctor-breaks-ranks-over-i...


The meaningful end point is a live birth, which here means a healthy baby that survives the neonatal period (a “take-home baby”). Live birth data at Sydney ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0015028205030360

SUCCESS RATES From 1 April 1995 to 31 March 1996: • the average live birth rate for women of all ages (also called the 'take home baby' rate) for IVF and ...
http://books.google.gr/books?id=2GTtyLGMKgkC&lpg=PA149&ots=4...

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για αυτό το λόγο σου πρότεινα "ποσοστό τελειόμηνης κύησης επιτυχούς έκβασης", διατύπωση πιστεύω επαρκώς ασαφή αλλά και αρκούντως πλήρη, για να καλύψει τα πάντα...
καλή δουλειά...
Peer comment(s):

agree Anna Spanoudaki-Thurm : νομίζω οτι είναι σωστό αυτό που αναφέρεται στον ένα σύνδεσμο που δίνεις: a healthy baby that survives the neonatal period. Ενα μωρό που γεννιέται με προβλήματα (είτε πολύ πρόωρο, είτε άλλου είδους) και πεθαίνει στο μαιευτήριο δεν θεωρείται baby-take-home
12 hrs
Καλημέρα, Άννα. Σε ευχαριστώ.
agree Olga Hatzigeorgiou
1 day 21 hrs
Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ.
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γεννήσεις παιδιών από προσπάθειες εξωσωματικής

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Because of this, 1/4 to 1/3 of women who get pregnant through egg donation experience some form of bleeding in the first trimester. Although this may not necessarily lead to pregnancy loss, it is naturally extremely worrying and is a risk for pregnancy loss. At AVA-Peter, we therefore supply you with medication that can stop the bleeding, and instructions on how to use it. In this way, you will have everything you need at home in case such an emergency situation arises. (The medication cannot of course prevent miscarriages caused by chromosomal defects, but it has certainly been effective in sustaining pregnancies threatened by hormonal problems.) This strategy has significantly improved our baby-take-home rates: 85% of those who get pregnant become mothers.
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Obstetric outcome was studied in terms of mean gestational age at delivery, mean birth weight, congenital malformations related to monochorionicity, perinatal loss rates, and baby take-home rate.
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Also, from:

http://www.gghospital.in/Success Rates.htm

relevant paragraph:

Live birth rate per transfer

This is the most accurate assessment of success where the transfer culminates in a healthy baby (Take home baby rate).
We have given the following information:

* A yearly variation of pregnancy rates among the infertile population for that particular year
* Our news letter carries the pregnancy rates and percentages for every procedure done at our centre.
* The total live birth rates and miscarriage rates have also been cited.

Extract from an interview from:

http://www.obgyn.net/displaytranscript.asp?page=/avtranscrip...

Hugo C. Verhoeven, MD: "Your pregnancy rate is high; what about your baby-take-home rate? That's what interests our readers."

Juergen Eisermann, MD: "This is what I'm talking about, ongoing to take-home-babies is in the high 40's."

Την απάντηση που προτείνω την βρήκα από >

http://www.web-crete.net/index.php/Ιατρική-και-υγεία/Τα-ποσο...

Τα πράγματα γίνονται πιο σύνθετα αν λάβουμε υπόψιν μας το ποσοστό επιτυχίας που βασίζεται στις γεννήσεις παιδιών από προσπάθειες εξωσωματικής (take home baby rate). Η κάθε γυναίκα που εγκυμονεί έχει δυστυχώς πιθανότητα αποβολής 15%.

Ελπίζω να αληθεύει.


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Ok, having seen the other answers, just a quick note to highlight that baby take-home rate seems to be exclusively related to ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION and not normal pregnancies. It kept cropping up on sites about artificial fertilisation etc.


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If you want to distinguish between LIVE BIRTH and TAKE-HOME (a live birth does not exclude subsequent problems during the days after birth- babies go through ultrasounds and check-ups prior to the mother's and baby's release from the hospital) you could translate it as:

ποσοστό γεννήσεων υγιούς βρέφους αντί απλά ζωντανού.

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Panagioti thank you for your comment. Very true and wise.
I agree it is a delicate thing to translate the "health" part.
It should be avoided.
It is not contained in the english phrase so it should not be in its translated version.
A healthy newborn baby can be taken home and remain healthy throughout neonatal period and hopefully all his/her life....
Problems could arise while in hospital after birth, but also when at home during the first months.

I was thinking of εξιτήριο από το νοσοκομείο ή κλινική.

ποσοστό νεογέννητων με εξιτήριο για να αποφύγεις το "νεογνό έτοιμο για το σπίτι".
Ισως να μην ακούγεται καλά έτσι.
Mπορείς να διατυπωθεί κάπως καλύτερα.
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Reference comments

39 mins
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live births per sth depending on your text

..."The baby take-home rate was calculated as live births per IVF cycles and not, as in the text above, related to embryo transfer...."
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Reference:

"baby take-home rate", also called "take-home baby rate"

In fact, the take-home baby rate is the percentage of women who, once pregnant, carry the baby to term. It does not include the many who never become pregnant.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625014.300-can-embry...


patients, as %) or baby take-home rate (number of babies taken home after the IVF treatment/number of ITT patients, as %) ... Take-home baby rate (%) ... pregnancy rate and baby take-home rate, the results of the ...
humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/11/2333.pdf
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