This site uses cookies. Some of these cookies are essential to the operation of the site, while others help to improve your experience by providing insights into how the site is being used. For more information, please see the ProZ.com privacy policy.
Cookie settings
  1. KudoZ™ Top
  2. Arabic to English
  3. Military / Defense

ركن استخبارات وركن عمليات

English translation: Intelligence (staff) officer; operations (staff) officer

23:08 Jun 6, 2010
Arabic to English translations [PRO]
Military / Defense
Arabic term or phrase: ركن استخبارات وركن عمليات
ركن عمليات وركن استخبارات مجموعة لواء مشاة آلي
HayaB
English translation:Intelligence (staff) officer; operations (staff) officer
Explanation:
If the context refers to persons with those titles, then the English equivalents -- in "US MIlitary English" -- refer to teh epropsns holidng those positions on the staffs of a unit that is battalion, brigade, division, or higher:

[1] Intelligence (staff) officer

[2] Operations (staff) officer

For example, in the Saudi Arabian National Guard [SANG], the S2 of a brigade = rukan istaKhabaraat al-luwa' = ركن إستخبارات اللواء

Hope this helps. Khair, in shaa' Allah.

Regards,

Stephen H. Franke
Former Chief Trainer, SANG Modernization Program
Riyadh, KSA

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs (2010-06-07 03:37:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

CORRECTED TEXT FOLLOWS: If the context refers to persons with those titles, then the English equivalents -- in "US Military English" -- refer to the officers holding those positions on the staffs of a unit that is at the level of a battalion, brigade, division, or higher echelon of command.
Selected response from:

Stephen Franke
United States
Local time: 02:19
Grading comment
Selected automatically based on peer agreement.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2Intelligence and Operations Staffs/Departments
Ahmed Badawy
5 +2Intelligence (staff) officer; operations (staff) officer
Stephen Franke
4 +1intelligence and operation departments
Salam Alrawi
4Intelligence and Operation Chief of Staff
baligh


  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
intelligence and operation departments


Explanation:
...

Salam Alrawi
United States
Local time: 04:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Omar H (X)
1 hr
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Intelligence and Operations Staffs/Departments


Explanation:
still i prefer "staff" not "Department", though both conveniently used.

Ahmed Badawy
Saudi Arabia
Local time: 12:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Omar H (X)
10 mins
agree  Steve Booth: staff as long as the text refers to the departments also known as G2 and G3 in the British Army J2 and J3 in UK joint forces.
3 hrs
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Intelligence (staff) officer; operations (staff) officer


Explanation:
If the context refers to persons with those titles, then the English equivalents -- in "US MIlitary English" -- refer to teh epropsns holidng those positions on the staffs of a unit that is battalion, brigade, division, or higher:

[1] Intelligence (staff) officer

[2] Operations (staff) officer

For example, in the Saudi Arabian National Guard [SANG], the S2 of a brigade = rukan istaKhabaraat al-luwa' = ركن إستخبارات اللواء

Hope this helps. Khair, in shaa' Allah.

Regards,

Stephen H. Franke
Former Chief Trainer, SANG Modernization Program
Riyadh, KSA

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs (2010-06-07 03:37:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

CORRECTED TEXT FOLLOWS: If the context refers to persons with those titles, then the English equivalents -- in "US Military English" -- refer to the officers holding those positions on the staffs of a unit that is at the level of a battalion, brigade, division, or higher echelon of command.

Stephen Franke
United States
Local time: 02:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36
Grading comment
Selected automatically based on peer agreement.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Steve Booth: if talking about inidivual posts then yes
3 hrs
agree  Timothy Brooks: In US Military terms, we call the head of the respective staffs the "Intelligence/Operations Officer" for that echelon. We tend to reserve the phrase "Chief of Staff" for the Executive Officer, to whom both the Intelligence and Operations officers report
6 days
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Intelligence and Operation Chief of Staff


Explanation:
Thi is my suggestion if "ركن" here refers to the person in charge and not to the department as a whole.

Good luck

baligh
Spain
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in SpanishSpanish
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

Return to KudoZ list

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.

See also:
ProZ.com term search
Search millions of term translations
Close search
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search