Sep 27, 2010 02:19
13 yrs ago
Spanish term

grades caminos longitudinales

Spanish to English Other Environment & Ecology food industry
this is a Spanish text from Peru talking about early food preservation and storage. Basically, I don't know what grades caminos longitudinales are.. the food was stored in...

... colcas y tambos construidos a lo largo de los grades caminos longitudinales y de penetración a la amazonía, de más de 900 kilómetros, como el de Quito-Tulcan hasta el lago Manoa o Parime en la cuenca del rio....

Any hints on how to translate "los grados caminos longitudinales"? Gracias!!

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Discussion

Christine Walsh Sep 27, 2010:
I'm no expert on Perú, but in most Andean countries the easiest and most used roads run west of the mountains (longitudinales), and there are others that cross the Andes towards the east (de penetración)
Travelin Ann Sep 27, 2010:
http://www.canalsocial.net/GER/ficha_GER.asp?id=81 "5. Política de integración. A la altura del s. XV el imperio había llegado a su apogeo, pero no puede decirse lo mismo de la cultura incaica; fue mayor en el centro y S del antiguo Perú y más superficial en el N costeño donde residía el núcleo del gran reino chimú. La política de integración se desarrolló por los siguientes medios: una red viaria que comprendía dos grandes caminos longitudinales, uno por la costa y otro por la sierra, que se extendían desde Colombia hasta Chile; estas vías eran los ejes del conjunto de caminos que ponían en..."
isarcat (asker) Sep 27, 2010:
wait, I think I know what they mean... roads along (the length of) and penetrating into... could that be it (assuming grades is indeed grandes)?
isarcat (asker) Sep 27, 2010:
grandes.... very possibly.. the longitudinales still has me stumped though... This is thousands of years ago.. pre-inca and inca times..
Christine Walsh Sep 27, 2010:
From Oxford Superlex: tambo m
1 (RPl)
a (establecimiento) dairy farm
b (corral) milking yard
2 (Méx)
a (recipiente) bin; mover el tambo (Méx fam & hum) to boogie (colloq)
b (fam) (cárcel) slammer (sl), can (AmE sl)
3 (Per)
a (Hist) (posada) wayside inn
b (tienda) wayside stall
Christine Walsh Sep 27, 2010:
Quizás los caminos longitudinales hayan corrido en sentido norte/sur, como la cordillera, y los 'de penetración' de oeste a este. A su vera habría algún tipo de establecimiento donde se guardaba comida.
Travelin Ann Sep 27, 2010:
How early? What century?
Christine Walsh Sep 27, 2010:
No será 'grandes'?

Proposed translations

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great roads running north-south

One way of putting it. I think it must be 'grandes'

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Note added at 32 mins (2010-09-27 02:51:44 GMT)
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The 'colcas' and 'tambos' appear to have been wayside storehouses.
Peer comment(s):

agree Travelin Ann : although I would prefer "major" roads running north-south. Great sounds "big," while "major" sounds primary, at least to my US EN ear// principal sounds good and probably bridges the UK/US language gap
2 mins
Thanks, Ann! 'Major' would be just fine; though my Brit's ear is very familiar with 'great Roman roads'. 'Grandes' in Spanish creates the same impression, actually. I'd probably use 'principales' or 'importantes'.
agree Rosa Paredes
45 mins
Thanks, Rosa!
neutral philgoddard : "Great roads" means they're famous or very important - this just means "main" or "principal".
12 hrs
Thanks Phil. However, there's a 'camino del inca' in north-western Argentina; I've been on it, and I think 'great' would apply.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'm selecting this one bc Christine was the first to set me on the right path (ha ha). I did use major, however. Thank you to ALL, I appreciate your great input!!!"
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2 hrs
Spanish term (edited): los grandes caminos longitudinales

the heavily traveled routes going north-south [and penetrating the Amazon]

I have phrased this so that you can fit it into your context.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-09-27 05:07:40 GMT)
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These are actually trade routes.

I should have said 'routes running north-south' is actually more common (16,000 hits) vs. 'routes going north-south' (4,300 hits). Examples:

... had built state in Tigris River valley during nineteenth century B.C.E. Took advantage of location on trade routes running north/south and east/west, ...
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Key pre-historic trade routes running north-south ran down modern day Ivy Lane and Church Terrace, while the main route between Warwick and London forms ...
www.harbury-pc.gov.uk/history.htm

The chronological position of the sites of Harageh and Gerzeh, located at a key-point along the trade routes running north/south at a crucial moment in ...
grepal.free.fr/articles/luc_watrin_icom_anglais.pdf

flourishing caravan trade routes running north south and east west through. Mecca (Nehls 1994:2). Unfortunately, however, he had contact with a ...
upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/submitted/etd-12052005.../04chapter4.pdf

Apr 2, 2010 ... Laodicea · Located at a crossroads of trade routes running north/south from Pergamum all the way to the Mediterranean Sea and east/west from ...
www.docstoc.com/docs/...


It also straddles two key communication routes running north-south and east-west with the entrance to Glendale forming the junction of these two axes. ...
www.philipcoppens.com/log_art2.html

Peer comment(s):

agree Evans (X) : I like this. It avoids the word "roads" which is perhaps misleading in this historical context. I also agree that "running north-south" is a better option here.
2 hrs
Thanks, Gilla!
agree Bubo Coroman (X) : reminds me of the Silk Road http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road
4 hrs
Thanks, Deborah!
agree Catherine Gilsenan
1 day 5 hrs
Thanks, Catherine!
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3 hrs

great longitudinal roads

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www.thisischile.cl/Articles.aspx?...longitudinal-road..
Knowledge of the longitudinal road gradient can be used by Advanced Cruise Control (ACC) and automatic transmission control systems to provide more accurate ...
ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1244233
Peer comment(s):

agree martamp : I'd keep the term "longitudinal" as in the original text
2 hrs
thanks! finally a correct translator!!
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3 hrs

main north-south routes

I would say ...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-09-27 05:50:56 GMT)
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a wee bit free but I think first of all that it should read "grandes" and so I would now suggest "major etc."
Peer comment(s):

neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : That won't fit with the rest of the sentence because you have to characterize the roads as both north-south and penetrating into the Amazon.
3 hrs
agree philgoddard
9 hrs
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