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Apr 24, 2012 14:27
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English term

whatchamacallit rules

English to French Other Slang South African English
A sea of young ladies in various states of undress, fashionable platform shoes and made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit rules, ok? Few men wear suits.

Je comprends tous les mots, mais pas la syntaxe... Qu'est-ce qui "rules" ? L'océan de jeunes femmes court vêtues ?
Et le groupe qualificatif "made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair" s'applique-t-il bien à "wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit" ? > "perruques, postiches et bidules en cheveux véritables et fabriqués à Bombay”

Bref, je m'y perds

SVP, je sais que cette question est "limite" par rapport aux règles de KudoZ, merci d'avance de votre indulgence... et de votre aide :-)

Discussion

JulieM (asker) Jul 4, 2012:
Question closed without grading... ... because the best answer seems to me to be Tony's. Thanks everybody
Tony M Apr 24, 2012:
@ F-X Yes, but this is street language, and the rules of grammar don't apply, or only shakily...

I'm just not convinced that 'rule OK?' sits very well with 'sea of young ladies'; in any case, there would often be a tendency in EN to treat the young ladies as plural, sea or not (we've had discussions before about singular or plural with collective nouns) — I rather see it as being the list of whatnots that is being lumped together as a single entity describing a certain fashion (?) style.
FX Fraipont (X) Apr 24, 2012:
@Tony Not in the examples I've found:
Actual Examples:
Dandys Rule, OK?
KC RULES OK

Parodies:
Heisenberg probably Rules, OK?
James Bond rules, OOK?
Dyslexics lure, KO.
Potassium Ethoxide rules C2H5OK
Dandys Rule OK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandys_Rule_OK
Dandys Rule OK is the debut studio album by American alternative rock band The Dandy Warhols. It was released on 6 April 1995 on Tim/Kerr Records.
The Goodies Rule – O.K.? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies_Rule_–_O.K.%3F
"The Goodies Rule OK" — Robert Ross, Carlton Books Ltd, Sydney, 2006; "From Fringe to Flying Circus — 'Celebrating a Unique Generation of Comedy ...
Tony M Apr 24, 2012:
Young ladies... (or 'laides' as I originally mistyped it!)

I'm not sure they're included in the 'de rigueur' bit. I read it as something like this:

"Looking down on the crowd, I am seeing scantily clad young ladies, in a room where [all this trash] rules ok!?"

Just one way of looking at it, but I think it holds water...
Tony M Apr 24, 2012:
Singular Because it's a set expression, and is always in the singular: Queen rules OK!
Tottenham Hotspur rules OK! Dyslexia lures OK!
FX Fraipont (X) Apr 24, 2012:
Rules OK! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rules, OK?

I saw it the way Tony does, but then there is a problem : why is "rules" in the singular, since it is supposed to apply to all the paraphernalia?
JulieM (asker) Apr 24, 2012:
Thanks Tony... ... I (almost) get it. If I understand your explanation, young ladies, shoes, wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit are all part of a listing of things that are "de rigueur"? And that's all, no verb then?
Tony M Apr 24, 2012:
My interpretation... I think the 'rules OK?' (traditional UK graffiti tag line) applies to the whole of the foregoing list (which is left otherwise without a verb):

"fashionable platform shoes and made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit rules, ok?"

And 'human hair wigs' (only) is qualified by both 'mail-order' and 'made-in-Bombay'

So 'rules OK?' is something like 'de rigueur' in a humorous sense — everyone is wearing the same kind of things, or at least, these things sum up in a nutshell the general fashion style of the gathering...

BTW, I don't think it's specifically S.A. slang — this sounds very familiar to me in the UK too.

'X rules, OK?' is the type of expression I grew up with in the '60s, and is a sort of 'street' way of saying something like 'vive X !' — but in your context, it is being used differently, a bit of a 'play on words', really as if it meant just 'rules' or 'is the rule'; the idea is perhaps a bit like the notion of 'régnant'.

Proposed translations

3 hrs

teeshirts with printed slogan (....Rules OK")

My first reading made me imagine this. There are a whole series of (silly) teeshirts with "Apathy Rules OK" printed on the front (or back). The whatchamacollit is like saying "whatever, you name it" . A shot in the dark? SO it does not apply to the ladies' hair pieces. The following reference to what the men wear might bear this out ?
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