Jun 15, 2012 09:01
11 yrs ago
English term
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Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Spanish to Russian, and 1 more.
that they designate in the community
English
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Law (general)
Hello everyone,
Most prisoners serve determinate sentences, and return to their communities. Prison systems have a responsibility to help to prepare such persons for that return, and to document their efforts to do so.
Much of this documentation will be contained in the file already and will describe the progress of the prisoner against the plan that was created for him or her. However, there are some important elements that must be recorded near or at the time of release
Records prior to release (1)
• A pre-release medical, dental and optician examination.
• Any on-going concerns should be shared with the prisoner and a medical professional **that they designate in the community**.
• Presence of identification documents that will be required by the prisoner following release.
• Where these documents are not present, the prison system has a responsibility to correspond and acquire them on behalf of the prisoner.
Does "that they designate in the community" imply that a prisoner after release chooses a doctor or that a doctor is assigned/chosen by the corresponding authorities?
Thank you.
Most prisoners serve determinate sentences, and return to their communities. Prison systems have a responsibility to help to prepare such persons for that return, and to document their efforts to do so.
Much of this documentation will be contained in the file already and will describe the progress of the prisoner against the plan that was created for him or her. However, there are some important elements that must be recorded near or at the time of release
Records prior to release (1)
• A pre-release medical, dental and optician examination.
• Any on-going concerns should be shared with the prisoner and a medical professional **that they designate in the community**.
• Presence of identification documents that will be required by the prisoner following release.
• Where these documents are not present, the prison system has a responsibility to correspond and acquire them on behalf of the prisoner.
Does "that they designate in the community" imply that a prisoner after release chooses a doctor or that a doctor is assigned/chosen by the corresponding authorities?
Thank you.
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they = the prisoner
I propose this answer, not because I am totally sure, but because I think it is a legitimate possibility.
1. There is no mention in the preceding sentences (as far as we can see) to the authorities, so to say 'they' = 'the authorities' is stretching it a bit, in my opinion.
2. 'they'/their is often used to designate a person who is undefined in some way, and often to avoid the rather cumbersome "he or she" "his or her"
Cf. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/crimejusticeandthelaw/sentencing...
. Find out what rights a prisoner has and how they, or someone they know, can complain about their treatment while in prison.
On Facebook , you see "XXXX has updated their profile"
So I think this is the more likely explanation . I am not clear at all as to why a prisoner would not be able to choose a medical professional (either before or after release) to look after him/her (them!) as he/she is supposed to be returning to his/her community... It seems to me normal that the assumption should be that he/she/ (they) could choose the professional - even if there are cases when the authorities have to do it for him/her/them
1. There is no mention in the preceding sentences (as far as we can see) to the authorities, so to say 'they' = 'the authorities' is stretching it a bit, in my opinion.
2. 'they'/their is often used to designate a person who is undefined in some way, and often to avoid the rather cumbersome "he or she" "his or her"
Cf. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/crimejusticeandthelaw/sentencing...
. Find out what rights a prisoner has and how they, or someone they know, can complain about their treatment while in prison.
On Facebook , you see "XXXX has updated their profile"
So I think this is the more likely explanation . I am not clear at all as to why a prisoner would not be able to choose a medical professional (either before or after release) to look after him/her (them!) as he/she is supposed to be returning to his/her community... It seems to me normal that the assumption should be that he/she/ (they) could choose the professional - even if there are cases when the authorities have to do it for him/her/them
Peer comment(s):
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Yvonne Gallagher
: I see no reason why a prisoner would not name a doctor they're(=he/she as you say) planning to use upon release
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Thanks gallagy2 :-)
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Comment: "Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, katsy."
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Liz Dexter (was Broomfield)
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that the prison authorities designate in the prisoner's community
There is a medical professional who the prison authorities choose (designate) in the community into which the prisoner is released, and any on-going concerns are shared with them.
Although the sense is grammatically ambiguous, in that the "they" refers to the prisoner designating the medical professional, I'm almost sure it will be the prison authorities who will actually choose the medical professional. Institutions are more likely than people to "designate"
Although the sense is grammatically ambiguous, in that the "they" refers to the prisoner designating the medical professional, I'm almost sure it will be the prison authorities who will actually choose the medical professional. Institutions are more likely than people to "designate"
Peer comment(s):
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Martin Riordan
: Yes, this is prior to release so the prisoner has had no chance to choose a doctor.
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Thank you!
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