Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Polish term or phrase:
przedpoborowy
English translation:
pre-inductee
Added to glossary by
Timoshka
Sep 9, 2016 03:07
7 yrs ago
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Polish term
przedpoborowy
Polish to English
Social Sciences
Military / Defense
This is quoted from a 1939 report made by the Governor of Lublin Province: "DVP (Deutscher Volksverband in Polen) rozpowszechnia fałszywe wiadomości o Państwie Polskim i trwałości jego granic, łączy cele polityczne z wychowaniem fizycznym i przysposobieniem wojskowym, stosuje metody konspiracji, pod pozorem werbunku na roboty w Gdańsku, w poznańskim i na Pomorzu, prowadzi nielegalny przemyt przedpoborowych na przeszkolenia wojskowe oraz gromadzi mniejszość niemiecką." I believe the word przedpoborowy is used as a noun here? "...conducts illegal smuggling of (pre-enlistment age individuals???) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | pre-inductee |
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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| 2 +1 | pre-conscript |
geopiet
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References
| przedpoborowy |
Andrzej Mierzejewski
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Proposed translations
49 mins
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
United States
Native in Polish
&
English
Works in field
United States
On time, on target, on budget.
Native in: English 
, Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish, Russian to Polish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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444
Selected
pre-inductee
A noun form. In the USA, enlistment is a voluntary form of joining the military.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2016-09-09 11:13:57 GMT)
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The applicant underwent a pre-inductee physical examination on 6 May 1964. He was found qualified for induction and reported that “I’m in good health” in item 17 (Statement of Examinee’s Present Health in Own Words) on his Standard Form 89 (Report of Medical History).
http://boards.law.af.mil/ARMY/BCMR/CY2006/20060010040C070205...
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Children and young people prepare for the patriotic/military education by acquiring military knowledge, pre-inductee courses and active military
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2000-02-03/news/00020301...
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would be to provide pre-inductee training consisting of military drill, rifle practice under proper super vision, and perhaps maneuvers that would be of interest to
http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn84031433/1944-06-01/...
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"Introduction to the armed forces for the pre-inductee"
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/huge-lot-of-pre-ww2-mo...
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signs as a pre- inductee into active duty
https://th.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=201006020951...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2016-09-09 11:13:57 GMT)
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The applicant underwent a pre-inductee physical examination on 6 May 1964. He was found qualified for induction and reported that “I’m in good health” in item 17 (Statement of Examinee’s Present Health in Own Words) on his Standard Form 89 (Report of Medical History).
http://boards.law.af.mil/ARMY/BCMR/CY2006/20060010040C070205...
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Children and young people prepare for the patriotic/military education by acquiring military knowledge, pre-inductee courses and active military
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2000-02-03/news/00020301...
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would be to provide pre-inductee training consisting of military drill, rifle practice under proper super vision, and perhaps maneuvers that would be of interest to
http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn84031433/1944-06-01/...
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"Introduction to the armed forces for the pre-inductee"
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/huge-lot-of-pre-ww2-mo...
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signs as a pre- inductee into active duty
https://th.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=201006020951...
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Note from asker:
| So if PRE-inductees were being smuggled, one would assume it was before they were actually enrolled in military service...but...the report says: "...prowadzi nielegalny przemyt przedpoborowych na przeszkolenia wojskowe..." It sounds like they were already in military training. |
| Maybe there isn't a problem here. I just found this: "Frunze had desired sites for militia training down to company level, particularly for pre-inductee training (vseobuch). He reported to the III Congress of Soviets, ..." So, I guess pre-inductees could be in training, and thus could have been smuggled out of military training. |
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Comment: "Thank you!"
+1
7 hrs
pre-conscript
'Polish pre-conscript, conscript, recruit, soldier, reservist, not subject yo military duty for any reason' - https://goo.gl/gUHTdc
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Perhaps it is all the more significant for not being a front-line fighting force, but a volunteer agricultural force of pre-conscript male adolescents - https://goo.gl/IHgePw
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... and indeed are inculcated by a network of both formal and informal pre-conscript educational systems (Ezrachi and Gal 1995, Cohen, S. 1997) - https://goo.gl/fDDjtG
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Perhaps it is all the more significant for not being a front-line fighting force, but a volunteer agricultural force of pre-conscript male adolescents - https://goo.gl/IHgePw
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... and indeed are inculcated by a network of both formal and informal pre-conscript educational systems (Ezrachi and Gal 1995, Cohen, S. 1997) - https://goo.gl/fDDjtG
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Andrzej Mierzejewski
: IMO OK, ponieważ dotyczy okresu, gdy służba wojskowa w Niemczech (III Rzesza) była obowiązkowa.
4 hrs
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dziękuję | w podanym tekście chodzi o Polskę, przedpoborowych z mniejszości niemieckiej ... - http://www.ludowegarwolin.cba.pl/files/zeszyt-18.pdf
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Reference comments
5 hrs
Andrzej Mierzejewski
Poland
Poland
Native in Polish
Works in field
Poland
M.Sc. Engineer (Mechanics)
Native in: Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish, German to Polish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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129
Reference:
przedpoborowy
= is understood as a human male from the beginning of the calendar year that he will turn 18 years old till the end of the calendar year that he will turn 19 years old.
My own translation from isap.sejm.gov.pl/Download?id=WMP19590940498&type=2
That's the Polish Prime Minister Regulation of the 3rd of November 1959.
The question regards to the pre-WW2 times thus I dont' know whether the age limits were the same at that same.
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Note added at 5 godz. (2016-09-09 08:34:38 GMT)
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Correction!:
whether the age limits were the same at that time.
BTW to Timoshka:
"So, I guess pre-inductees could be in training, and thus could have been smuggled out of military training."
Just in opposite if I understand this expression correctly. Young German men were smuggled from Germany to Poland for military training despite their age.
My own translation from isap.sejm.gov.pl/Download?id=WMP19590940498&type=2
That's the Polish Prime Minister Regulation of the 3rd of November 1959.
The question regards to the pre-WW2 times thus I dont' know whether the age limits were the same at that same.
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Note added at 5 godz. (2016-09-09 08:34:38 GMT)
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Correction!:
whether the age limits were the same at that time.
BTW to Timoshka:
"So, I guess pre-inductees could be in training, and thus could have been smuggled out of military training."
Just in opposite if I understand this expression correctly. Young German men were smuggled from Germany to Poland for military training despite their age.
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