Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

einen toten Punkt überschreitet

English translation:

push past a point of resistance

Added to glossary by Mary Burdman
Sep 29, 2017 18:53
6 yrs ago
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German term

einen toten Punkt überschreitet

German to English Tech/Engineering Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Leather work
This phrase occurs in a description of making a leather sheath for a knife.

The entire phrase runs:

Bei der Konstruktion ist es wichtig zu beachten, dass das Messer nicht auf der Spitze aufliegt, sondern mit dem Handschutz innen auf einem Gegenlager auf dem Keder. Richtig gefertigt, schnappt das Messer regelrecht ein, wenn man **einen toten Punkt überschreitet** und sich die Lederscheide nach dem anfänglichen Weiten durch das übermaßige Messer wieder zurückbildet.

Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mary

Discussion

Mary Burdman (asker) Oct 1, 2017:
Nein, der Autor ist deutsch, nicht Schweizer.
Herbmione Granger Oct 1, 2017:
Vielleicht ist diese Benutzung von "toten Punkt"/dead point ungewöhnlich. Schweizerdeutsch?
http://www.knife-heaven.com/katana/Leseprobe_042008.pdf
http://www.farmprofi.com/Doc/Manual_Dvojmontaz_MD_MD _ENG_GE...
Harald 4711 Oct 1, 2017:
"Totpunkt" ist eigentlich falsch (oder zumindest unglücklich) gewählt. Tatsächlich ist es ein Punkt maximaler Kraft und maximalen Widerstandes, wenn die dickste Selle des Messers eine Engstelle der Scheide durchfährt und direkt dahinter "einrastet".

Mit einem Einklappen oder Ausklappen der Klinge hat das nichts zu tun.
Mary Burdman (asker) Sep 30, 2017:
point of resistance Hi herbalchemist,
What you entered makes most sense to me - I think I will use your translation of "point of resistance" and add a reference to a "dead point" in German.
Thanks!
Mary Burdman (asker) Sep 30, 2017:
I had seen a translation as "dead point" but did not know if that were correct or just a "literal" translation.
Thanks!

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push past a point of resistance

If you try to sheath a knife, there is a "point" at which there is resistance due to the design of the knife and holder, and you need to exert strength to push past this resistance so that the blade snaps into place. Similarly, there is a threshold for removing the knife.
More natural would be "push past the resistance" or something. I don't know any blade enthusiasts that would use "dead point" in this situation.

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Glad to have helped, Mary!
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a dead point is overcome

If you google "dead point" + "knife" you'll get a range of references, e.g.

"The cleverly designed mechanism uses lever arms that move relative to one another. These prevent the mechanism from overcoming its dead point even when only minimal force is applied by the hand, therefore reliably preventing the blade from folding up even without a lock during normal use."

https://www.boker.de/en/pocketknives/boker-plus/innovative-k...
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if it is not dead centre

If the sheath is properly madem the knife simply falls into place if it is not dead centre.

This is how I understand it - maybe something similar.

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properly made,
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