Apr 2, 2019 12:46
5 yrs ago
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English term

c of c

English Law/Patents Law (general)
The abbreviation comes from Land Registry
An exemplary document can be found at https://bit.ly/2CPdoRX

thank you in advance for the answer

Discussion

AllegroTrans Apr 2, 2019:
Where is North Ireland? New Zealand or Northern Ireland??
ZenonStyczyrz (asker) Apr 2, 2019:
North Ireland
Daryo Apr 2, 2019:
Of course that YOU can open it - you are the "owner" of the file - you posted it.

You need to repost it and look at ALL the settings, especially to who it will be visible and for how long.

As at least some context, could you confirm that it's the UK "land registry"?
ZenonStyczyrz (asker) Apr 2, 2019:
Strange it won't work. I am writing from Poland. I have provided the link, because all the important context is there. And I just thought it would be the best way. There are tables and it is a bit hard to explain the context without seeing it

I have entered the following search term into Google. The first result is my link
land certificate northern ireland "c of c"

Jacek Kloskowski Apr 2, 2019:
still <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
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philgoddard Apr 2, 2019:
That doesn't work either. Why don't you just give us a few lines of context? And which country is it from?
ZenonStyczyrz (asker) Apr 2, 2019:
It is strange, as I can open it all the time, and there are not any restrictiions imposed on it.

Please find the full version
https://estatecreate-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/site_9887/cont...
Daryo Apr 2, 2019:
very useful ... <Error>
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Request has expired @ 2019-04-02T12:48:01Z ...

You need to repost it - and make it accessible for a bit longer ...
ZenonStyczyrz (asker) Apr 2, 2019:
It is opening
Jacek Kloskowski Apr 2, 2019:
can't open the link.

Responses

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certificate of charge

Abolition of Land Certificates and Certificates of Charge
Published 17-Jan-2009

What is a Land Certificate?
A Land Certificate provides the owner of registered land with such evidence of his/her title similar to an owner of unregistered land who is in possession of his/her title deeds. It was sometimes used as a means of giving security for lands by depositing the Land Certificate with a borrower where monies were advanced. The Land Registry, where a Land Certificate has issued in respect of land, will require the production of the original Land Certificate, in all dealings with the land.

What is a Certificate of Charge?
A Certificate of Charge is to the charge (mortgage) what the Land Certificate is to the land, i.e. evidence of ownership of the charge it has issued in respect of. For example, where a Certificate of Charge has been issued in respect of a mortgage, the Certificate is the Bank’s document of title in respect of the mortgage and it will be required to deal with the mortgage in the Land Registry. In all dealings with that mortgage, the Land Registry will require production of the original Certificate of Charge.


Abolition of Land Certificates and Certfiicates of Charge

A decision was made by Government to abolish Land Certificates (and Certificates of Charge) in one of its first steps in the modernisation of the conveyancing process. This decision supports its policy on the introduction of e-Conveyancing which will lead to more efficient and cost effective conveyancing transactions. The certificate system contributed to a significant extent to the delays and costs associated with the registration of title to land e.g. where the certificate was lost or mislaid a lengthy process to issue a replacement certificate had to be undertaken.

Pursuant to the provisions of the Registration of Deeds and Title Act 2006 the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform has made an order providing for the commencement of section 73 of the Act. As and from January 1st 2007 the Property Registration Authority will cease to issue, or reissue, land certificates or certificates of charge.

From now until December 31st 2009, production of an existing certificate to the Authority shall be required for the registration of dealing with the property whose ownership it certifies, in accordance with existing requirements. On completion of the application the certificate will be cancelled and no replacement issued. After this date all remaining land certificates and certificates of charge, not already cancelled shall cease to have any force or effect.


How can I show title to my property from the 1st January 2010 where my Land Certificate?
A certified copy Folio Filed Plan will now be the sole evidence of your title to registered property. An owner can apply for a copy of his/her folio (fee €6) which will be certified as of the date of issue. A copy folio together with a filed plan (map) can also be applied for (fee €25).

http://www.mcenroesolicitors.ie/Article.aspx?articleId=9
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : as already shown in refs of other colleagues/not less valid, just less original
4 mins
Does it make my research less valid? Someone was not sure, I was, found examples. | honestly did no read it, did my reserach because did not like the other answer. can delete it if you dislike it, no prob.
agree Charles Davis : Perfectly legitimate to post it; no reason to delete it.
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agree Taña Dalglish : Agree. However, I don't agree with writeaway's rationale, and certainly does not negate your own research.
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agree Yvonne Gallagher
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Certificate of Conformity

Suggestion

This certificate is issued to indicate that the building is completed according to the approved plan. It must be obtained from the Municipal Council after the construction is completed and before occupying the building.

http://smartcity.sngpweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Regu...
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : we don't even know if there is ANY building in this plot/land registry parcel - it could be just empty land - or even a lake! No point guessing without some usable context.
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agree philgoddard : I think this is unlikely, but I just get tired of Daryo automatically disagreeing with everyone. He/she has no idea whether you're right or wrong.
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Thanks! :)
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Reference comments

26 mins
Reference:

Refs.

One option: "Certificate of Charge" (c of c)

Land Certificates Return and Retention Policy - Legal Office Notice No ...
https://www.prai.ie/land-certificates-return-and-retention-p...
5 ene. 2010 - ... responsible for the registration of property transactions in Ireland. ... Land Certificates and Certificates of Charge under the Registration of ...


Abolition of Land Certificates and Certificates of Charge - McEnroe ...
www.mcenroesolicitors.ie/Article.aspx?articleId=9
Abolition of Land Certificates and **Certificates of Charge**. Published 17-Jan-2009. What is a Land Certificate? A Land Certificate provides the owner of registered ...


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1TSNP_enJM694JM694&ei=cV...

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Note added at 1 hr (2019-04-02 13:50:06 GMT)
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I also looked into "Certificate of Conformity" but I have my doubts, as this is more for motor vehicles. https://www.vrt.ie/faq/certificate-of-conformity/
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Daryo : a reference to a "Certificate of Charge" could be part of a Land registry entry - but we need more to be sure of anything. // I can't access this link, so I can't be sure, but it would make sense.
1 hr
Before you post a neutral, you need to be sure of your context. Furthermore, there are other links similar to the one the Asker posted which you can access, if you look/Ditto what Phil said. You disagree when it is apparently not your idea!
agree writeaway : Someone has now posted this as an answer.
1 hr
Thanks. I realize that, but it is okay!
agree Alison MacG : This link similar to the one posted by the asker shows Certificate of Charge written out in full in Part III - containing particulars relating to burdens and other encumbrances (see p. 10) http://wilsons.kfsnet.co.uk/i_folder/Mall/PL-425457/legalpac...
1 hr
Thank you Alison.
agree Charles Davis
2 hrs
Thank you Charles.
agree Clauwolf
3 hrs
Thank you so much.
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