Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

ladies\' lounge

English answer:

restroom/bathroom

Added to glossary by Rocío Tempone
Sep 19, 2020 06:16
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English term

ladies' lounge

Non-PRO English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters ladies' lounge
She came down to the ladies' lounge and she was crying.

They are talking about an old plane (about mid fifties). I found out that "ladies' lounge" stands for a room in pub or a hotel. but we have a plane here! The material is Australian.

Thanks in advance,
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Discussion

Tony M Sep 19, 2020:
@ Asker There may be further clues in your wider context. Who is observing her tears when she comes to the 'ladies lounge'? What does the text say happens next? Do we know where she 'came down' from? Do we know if she goes back to somewhere else? Most of this information is probably in your text somewhere, or can be inferred.

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restroom/bathroom

Not sure about how it is used in Australia, but it is familiar to me from childhood as a euphemism for restroom or bathroom.

As noted in Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restroom

As the euphemism, "restroom" has come to be associated with the actual function of the toilet, further euphemisms such as "powder room" and "lounge" have been constructed to avoid using the word "restroom" itself.

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Tony's suggestion may also have merit, but I have never seen this type of lounge in an airplane.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Indeed, further research into flying boat facilities certainly corrroborates your idea.
48 mins
agree philgoddard
18 hrs
agree B D Finch : You remind me of my mother saying she was going to powder her nose, while my father, when disappearing into the woods beside the road, was going to speak to a man about a horse.
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Salon des dames ou cabine des dames

Salon des dames ou cabine des dames(cabine d'essayage par exemple)
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : Wrong language!
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disagree Yvonne Gallagher : En to En
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disagree Daryo : (cabine d'essayage par exemple) vs "an old plane (about mid fifties)" ??? => an airplane used as a flying "magasin de mode"? Not very likely.
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lounge for ladies

The same thing applies on a plane to (back then!)
It would be a (usually) informal seating area reserved for ladies only; typically, it might be non-smoking, as distinct from say the 'men's smoking room'.

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In posh houses, in the olden days, they used sometimes to have a 'ladies withdrawing room' or 'drawing room', to which the ladies would retire after dinner leaving the gentlemen in the dining room smoking their cigars with their port and their gout.

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As A&M says, if this was a flying boat (which in this period were some of the few aircraft to have more than one level), then they did indeed euphemise the WCs in this way.
Here is a photo and also explanation; you can even see the handrail for the stairs, showing that you would indeed go 'down' to it:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/32955796248
Peer comment(s):

agree Yvonne Gallagher
2 hrs
Thanks, Yvonne!
agree P.L.F. Persio
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Thanks, PLFP!
agree Daryo : https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.216561694.9652/flat,800x800,...
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Thanks, Daryo, though as it turns out, I'm wrong here.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Short S.45 Solent

The Short S.45 Solent was a high-wing monoplane flying boat of aluminium construction. Power was provided by four Bristol Hercules[1] engines.

The aircraft could be fitted for 24 passengers with day and night accommodation or 36 day passengers. The cabins (four on the lower deck and two on the upper) could be used to sleep four or seat six. The upper deck included a lounge/dining area next to kitchen; the lower deck had two dressing rooms, toilets and three freight compartments. The flight crew was five (two pilots, navigator, and radio operator with the flight engineer in a separate compartment behind the flight deck opposite crew rest berths) and there were two stewards to attend to the passengers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Solent

As well as mail, Empire flying boats could carry up to 14 passengers and with a flight time of only ten days from Rose Bay to Southampton compared to more than 40 days by sea, they began to rival ships as a popular form of transport. Flying boats provided a first class only service (this was long before the advent of ‘economy’ class) – out of reach of most Australians as a ticket cost the equivalent of an annual salary.


The harbourside suburb of Rose Bay was selected as the site for Australia’s first international airport

Travellers in the 1930s were used to the comforts of a large ship. On the flying boats they experienced what it was like to ‘sail the skies’. Indeed, Short Brothers, the company who built the Empires, claimed ‘We don’t build aircraft that float, we build ships that fly’. Empire flying boats contained a promenade cabin, galley, wine cellar and plenty of space to stroll about and socialise, as seen in the many onboard photographs featured in the exhibition. The Empires cruised at just 150 miles per hour and usually no higher than 5000 feet. The promenade cabin featured windows at standing height so passengers could take in the view as the landscape and oceans below passed serenely by.
https://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/flying-boats-sydn...
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