Aug 18, 2021 15:44
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nous y avons perdu les grondements d’une retentissante colère
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Contexte:
Pour une fois Goering ne fut pas le gagnant de cette transaction, ayant été trompé sur l’authenticité du Vermeer. Le plus drôle est qu’il conquit ce tableau de haute lutte ; des amateurs hollandais le lui disputèrent âprement et en offrirent 1 650 000 florins… Ce fut enfin par une fantaisie malicieuse du destin que Goering réussit également à l’emporter sur Hitler. Il ignora toujours la tricherie dont
il avait été victime et nous y avons perdu, ainsi que ses experts, les grondements d’une retentissante colère.
Ce n’était pas la première fois que le Reichsmarschall avait été dupé. Après la vente des tableaux des musées allemands, il avait cru pouvoir s’offrir, avec une partie de l’argent reçu, un énorme rubis monté sur une bague où il voyait un travail de Benvenuto Cellini. Ce n’était hélas ! qu’une imitation.
Merci Beaucoup,
Barbara
Pour une fois Goering ne fut pas le gagnant de cette transaction, ayant été trompé sur l’authenticité du Vermeer. Le plus drôle est qu’il conquit ce tableau de haute lutte ; des amateurs hollandais le lui disputèrent âprement et en offrirent 1 650 000 florins… Ce fut enfin par une fantaisie malicieuse du destin que Goering réussit également à l’emporter sur Hitler. Il ignora toujours la tricherie dont
il avait été victime et nous y avons perdu, ainsi que ses experts, les grondements d’une retentissante colère.
Ce n’était pas la première fois que le Reichsmarschall avait été dupé. Après la vente des tableaux des musées allemands, il avait cru pouvoir s’offrir, avec une partie de l’argent reçu, un énorme rubis monté sur une bague où il voyait un travail de Benvenuto Cellini. Ce n’était hélas ! qu’une imitation.
Merci Beaucoup,
Barbara
Proposed translations
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David Hollywood
Native in English
Works in field
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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missed (the signs of) his growing/fuming rage
to get the ball rolling
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Note added at 18 mins (2021-08-18 16:03:03 GMT)
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what a nefarious character he was
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Note added at 18 mins (2021-08-18 16:03:03 GMT)
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what a nefarious character he was
Peer comment(s):
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ormiston
: What about 'simmering rage'?
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AllegroTrans
: what about the "y"?
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Daryo
: a hypothetical "growling rage" [that never happened] might work but "growing" makes no sense whatsoever - growing from which starting point??? As in fact Göring never realised he's been scammed there wasn't ANY "beginning of getting enraged".
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Peter Field
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
21 yrs as a Translator/Editor from FR>EN
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: French to English
we have missed out on the angry stirrings of an intense anger linked to it
we have missed out on the angry stirrings of an intense anger linked to it [la tricherie dont il avait été victime]
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
2 days 3 hrs
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Jennifer White
: two lots of "anger" in the same phrase?
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Daryo
: that's the idea, but also "two lots of "anger" in the same phrase?"
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2 days 1 hr
and so we have been deprived of the spectacle of his fuming / growling / rumbling rage
incandescent rage ?
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Note added at 2 days 2 hrs (2021-08-20 18:34:13 GMT)
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he didn't spot the scam and so ...
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Note added at 18 days (2021-09-06 11:50:33 GMT)
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special addition for the "devout followers" of the "literal translations only, please" school of translating, some "background information":
this question is one in a series of questions about a text mocking Göring at every turn.
Il ignora toujours la tricherie dont il avait été victime et nous y avons perdu, ainsi que ses experts, les grondements d’une retentissante colère.
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Göring never realised he's been scammed, so (because of that = the "y") we (and the experts) never had the opportunity to watch him fuming/roaring etc in rage IOW we missed on what would have been a really entertaining spectacle.
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Note added at 18 days (2021-09-06 12:06:56 GMT)
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"les grondements" are just an ingredient of this "show that we missed / were deprived of"
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Note added at 2 days 2 hrs (2021-08-20 18:34:13 GMT)
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he didn't spot the scam and so ...
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Note added at 18 days (2021-09-06 11:50:33 GMT)
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special addition for the "devout followers" of the "literal translations only, please" school of translating, some "background information":
this question is one in a series of questions about a text mocking Göring at every turn.
Il ignora toujours la tricherie dont il avait été victime et nous y avons perdu, ainsi que ses experts, les grondements d’une retentissante colère.
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Göring never realised he's been scammed, so (because of that = the "y") we (and the experts) never had the opportunity to watch him fuming/roaring etc in rage IOW we missed on what would have been a really entertaining spectacle.
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Note added at 18 days (2021-09-06 12:06:56 GMT)
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"les grondements" are just an ingredient of this "show that we missed / were deprived of"
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: what about the "y"?
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The "y" stands for "in all this story", the "story" being Göring not spotting that he's been scammed.
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Emmanuella
: Perdre les grondements et non le spectacle
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wait a second - you are seriously disagreeing because you think that in this case ONLY a literal translation can do?
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