germinación nula

English translation: null germination

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Spanish term or phrase:germinación nula
English translation:null germination
Entered by: Manuel Aburto

04:49 Aug 13, 2023
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Agriculture / Crops
Spanish term or phrase: germinación nula
Hola,

Estoy traduciendo un componente de un proyecto y me gustaría saber cuál podría ser la traducción más adecuada para el término "germinación nula":

De los productores que reportaron haber realizado pruebas de germinación de la semilla de frijol, el 53.6% valoran como germinación alta, además están satisfechos con la calidad del producto recibido para sus cultivos.

VALORACION DE LA GERMINACION
Germinación Alta
Germinación Media
Germinación Nula

My try:

Assessment of the germination (process)
High germination (level/rate)
Medium germination (level/rate)
Germinación Nula >? No germination, maybe?

De antemano, gracias por sus aportes.

Saludos
Manuel Aburto
Nicaragua
Local time: 06:08
null germination
Explanation:
The query piqued my curiosity, so I googled the literal translation and found over two thousand results. Many (but not all) of the published papers using the literal term appear to be by Spanish speaking authors.

However, Muriel's links are very convincing.
Selected response from:

neilmac
Spain
Local time: 14:08
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3null germination
neilmac
3 +2seed dormancy
Muriel Vasconcellos
4 +1no germination
slothm
4germinación latente
Arturo Oswal Alva Mendiburu
Summary of reference entries provided
Four day standard germination test EEUU
Tomasso

Discussion entries: 2





  

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
germinación latente


Explanation:
(germinación nula) seed latency is defined as the inability of a seed to germinate under optimal environmental conditions for germination, usually when the environment is at an adequate temperature with appropriate soil moisture.

Arturo Oswal Alva Mendiburu
Peru
Local time: 07:08
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
seed dormancy


Explanation:
"Seed dormancy is the state in which seed is unable to germinate, even under ideal growing conditions (Merriam-Webster). Because dormancy can be broken by most ideal growing conditions (different and specific for each species), the seeds germinate when they are the most likely to flourish."
Oregon State University

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Also "failure to germinate" -- which is the answer that first to mind:
Are Your Seeds Failing? Here are a Couple of Possible ...

farmtheworld.org
https://farmtheworld.org › 2020/04/08 › seeds-failing
Apr 8, 2020 — Failure to Germinate · The seeds are old and no longer viable · Those seeds could have been damaged, or exposed to too much humidity while in ..

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Seed dormancy

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Seed_dormancy
Many species of plants have seeds that delay germination for many months or years, and some seeds can remain in the soil seed bank for more than 50 years ...
‎Overview · ‎Exogenous dormancy · ‎Physical dormancy · ‎Endogenous dormancy

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 05:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 140

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  abe(L)solano
14 mins
  -> Thank you!

agree  neilmac: I wonder if this would also apply to the "embryo-less seeds" mentioned in my second link below...
1 hr
  -> Maybe. Thank you!

neutral  philgoddard: Dormancy, which seems to be your final answer, is wrong in my opinion - as your second reference says, they could be damaged or dead.
5 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
null germination


Explanation:
The query piqued my curiosity, so I googled the literal translation and found over two thousand results. Many (but not all) of the published papers using the literal term appear to be by Spanish speaking authors.

However, Muriel's links are very convincing.

Example sentence(s):
  • These studies showed null germination in the 0-month-old seeds incubated for 30 days
  • Cyperaceae and Poaceae showed an extremely low or null germination due to a high proportion of unviable or embryo-less seeds

    Reference: http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16659713/
    Reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8586350/
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 14:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 162

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
10 mins
  -> Tx:)

agree  philgoddard: Or none, or zero. You don't have to keep repeating 'germination' as the Spanish does.
3 hrs
  -> Cheers :)

agree  liz askew
1 day 15 mins
  -> Tx:)
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
no germination


Explanation:
Google frequency:

"nil germination" ............ 1.240
"null germination" ......... 1.860
"non germination" ....... 16.000
"no germination" ....... 143.000

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Google querry:

seed + "no germination" ........ 121.000 hits.

slothm
Local time: 09:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tomasso: Seems non germination rate, not latency, agree with Phil
10 hrs
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Reference comments


20 hrs
Reference: Four day standard germination test EEUU

Reference information:
ciqa.repositorioinstitucional.mx/jspui/bitstream/1025/334/1
quote..Evaluación de la*** prueba de germinación estándar***
Se realiza un primer conteo de plántulas que varía de acuerdo a la especie (4 días para
maíz, melón, pepino), se evalúan las plántulas normales (plántulas con raíz y tallo, cada
estructura con al menos dos veces el tamaño de la semilla en longitud), como un indicador
de vigor de germinación de la semilla y el resultado se expresa en porciento. Es necesario
realizar un conteo final de la germinación a los 7, 8 o 14 días, dependiendo de la especie,
para determinar el porcentaje, contando las plántulas normales (PN), anormales (PA) y las
***semillas sin germinar (SSG)*** (Figura 4). Se determina también la longitud de plúmula (LP) y de
la radícula o tallo (LR) en plántulas normales, estos datos se expresan en cm, y se consideran
un indicador del vigor. Para finalizar, se toma el peso seco (PS) de todas las plántulas
normales, las cuales son colocadas en bolsas de papel estraza con perforaciones, para
someterlas a secado en una estufa Lab-Line modelo 3478M, con una duración de 24 h a 70°C.
Las normas de la ISTA (2004) establecen procedimientos de germinación y periodos
detallados para realizar los conteos de plántulas.


.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2007-09342021000701199
Una vez establecido el experimento, las variables analizadas fueron los siguientes: germinación estándar o ‘PN’ (plántulas normales ‘PN’, plántulas anormales ‘PA’ y semillas sin germinar **‘SSG’)*** la evaluación se realiza al séptimo día después de la siembra. Para estos propósitos se define a la germinación, como la emergencia y desarrollo de aquellas estructuras esenciales que provienen del embrión y que manifiestan la capacidad de la semilla para producir una planta normal bajo condiciones favorables. Plántula normal se consideran todas aquellas que poseen las estructuras esenciales para producir plantas normales bajo condiciones favorables de agua, luz y temperatura.

marysveggiegarden,,, seed testing...In November I taught a class on Seeds and Transplants and in class I discussed seed germination testing. Students were asked to test the discolored seed as homework.

I tested 10 of those seeds myself and 9 germinated. Usually beans grow quickly and five of my seeds had good-sized roots showing 6 days later. I discarded the growing seeds and put the rest back in the plastic bag for a few more days. In another 3 days four of the remaining seeds had germinated.

Germination results on Nov. 17.
Germination results on Nov. 17.

Results: of 40 seeds tested 32 germinated.
Now that I know the seed is viable, should it be used as seed stock? It doesn’t meet the standards of the seed industry – I’ve never seen discolored bean seed in a seed packet. And knowing the seed has been wet then dried, there is probably some danger of some sort of mold or mildew contamination – even if I cannot see it. You can probably tell – I’m still undecided.

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might look at U of Costa Rica..https://www.scielo.sa.cr/pdf/am/v33nspe1/1659-1321-am-33-spe...

This reference lacks perspective, WHO is doing the test, the FARMERS who bought the seed? In school farmers are told to do a germination test themselves, usually 4 days, graded into High rate, Low rate and No germination.

In beans the main reason for no germination, is were not properly stored, in Granada, Masayo, if the seed get wet, it molds and then will not sprout at all, Out of stored beans , not latency but improper storage, and after 2 years likely are not good, too hot, wet etc.

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links https://ciqa.repositorioinstitucional.mx/jspui/bitstream/102...
https://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=...


    https://ciqa.repositorioinstitucional.mx/jspui/bitstream/1025/334/1/T%C3%A9cnicas%20Para%20Evaluar%20Germinaci%C3%B3n,%20Vigor%20y%20Calidad
    https://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2007-09342021000701199
Tomasso
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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