Oct 22, 2008 09:57
15 yrs ago
Catalan term
tòpics falsos o matisables
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The whole sentence is:
"Quan parlem amb empresaris del sector sorgeixen amb freqüència alguns tòpics falsos o, com a mínim, matisables, que voldríem argumentar des del primer capítol d’aquest material didàctic, per tal de desfer-nos dels prejudicis d’ara endavant"
False and nuanced *topics* seems wrong to me, so I guess it means something else in this context...
Thanks for any help.
"Quan parlem amb empresaris del sector sorgeixen amb freqüència alguns tòpics falsos o, com a mínim, matisables, que voldríem argumentar des del primer capítol d’aquest material didàctic, per tal de desfer-nos dels prejudicis d’ara endavant"
False and nuanced *topics* seems wrong to me, so I guess it means something else in this context...
Thanks for any help.
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(popular) misconceptions or, at best, debatable issues
picking up Ross' take on it, a 'commonplace notion that is false' could be a misconception. Not sure if this fits your context
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Comment: "Hi
Thakns to the three of you, you all helped. I went with "misconceptions" and "at best debatable" in the end. They fitted very well.
Many thanks"
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Ross Andrew Parker
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clichés (commonplace notions) that are false or oversimpify
One way to put it
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They're not "nuanced": they're "nuance-able"
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-10-22 10:06:11 GMT)
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I think it's easier to word it as I have above. The clichés/commonplace notion can be picked apart = they oversimplify things.
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See definition 3:
tòpic -a
[1803; del ll. topĭcus, -a, -um, i aquest, del gr. topikós 'local']
1 adj Relatiu o pertanyent a un lloc determinat, local. Divinitats tòpiques.
2 adj i m FARM Dit del remei o medicament que hom aplica exteriorment damunt la pell o regió afectada, com és el cas de les pomades, els ungüents, els emplastres, els pegats, etc.
3 m LIT/LÒG 1 Argument general que s'aplica a tots els casos anàlegs, lloc comú.
2 Expressió trivial emprada sistemàticament en el mateix sentit. Els tòpics que hom aprèn a l'escola, que hom llegeix a la premsa.
4 f PSIC Nom amb el qual hom designa la descripció del funcionament de l'aparell psíquic realitzada per S. Freud.
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3.1 and 3.2
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Probably "commonplace notion" is better -- more context would help.
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Note added at 7 mins (2008-10-22 10:04:56 GMT)
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They're not "nuanced": they're "nuance-able"
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-10-22 10:06:11 GMT)
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I think it's easier to word it as I have above. The clichés/commonplace notion can be picked apart = they oversimplify things.
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Note added at 10 mins (2008-10-22 10:07:33 GMT)
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See definition 3:
tòpic -a
[1803; del ll. topĭcus, -a, -um, i aquest, del gr. topikós 'local']
1 adj Relatiu o pertanyent a un lloc determinat, local. Divinitats tòpiques.
2 adj i m FARM Dit del remei o medicament que hom aplica exteriorment damunt la pell o regió afectada, com és el cas de les pomades, els ungüents, els emplastres, els pegats, etc.
3 m LIT/LÒG 1 Argument general que s'aplica a tots els casos anàlegs, lloc comú.
2 Expressió trivial emprada sistemàticament en el mateix sentit. Els tòpics que hom aprèn a l'escola, que hom llegeix a la premsa.
4 f PSIC Nom amb el qual hom designa la descripció del funcionament de l'aparell psíquic realitzada per S. Freud.
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3.1 and 3.2
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Probably "commonplace notion" is better -- more context would help.
Note from asker:
| Hi Ross, Many thanks for your help, much appreciated, and helpful |
6 hrs
inaccurate or embellished topics
"Matisable" means that the truth has been embellished; I would translate "falsos" with "inaccurate".
Have a nice evening,
Milena
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Sorry, I have to add something; a "tòpic" is a "stereotype". I read your suggestion and went along with it. The English term "topic" is "tema" in Catalan.
Have a nice evening,
Milena
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Note added at 6 hrs (2008-10-22 16:37:44 GMT)
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Sorry, I have to add something; a "tòpic" is a "stereotype". I read your suggestion and went along with it. The English term "topic" is "tema" in Catalan.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, milena, that is very helpful |
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