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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

instortpot

English translation:

embedded or in-slab duct(work) fitting/connector/pot

Added to glossary by Jack den Haan
Aug 13, 2020 06:33
3 yrs ago
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Dutch term

instortpot

Dutch to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering ventilation systems
I can't quote my client's text in this case, but here is a photo from elsewhere:
https://ocuengineering.nl/product/gegalvaniseerde-instortpot...

And here is a description from another website:
"Tevens worden er bij instortkanalen gebruik gemaakt van zogenaamde instortpotten. Deze worden hoofdzakelijk gebruikt om een overgang te maken van een horizontaal kanaal (Ø 80 mm) in de vloer naar een verticale aftakking in de ruimte, ten behoeve van, bijvoorbeeld, het aansluiten van een afzuig- en/of toevoerventiel in de desbetreffende ruimte."
https://velu.nl/_files/file/velu/catalogs/Velu_H5_Technische...

Thanks for any assistance!
Proposed translations (English)
4 embedded or in-slab duct(work) fitting/connector/pot
4 diverter // deflector // guide piece
4 t-connector, t-piece
4 collection or collector pipe/duct/pot/piece
Change log

Sep 4, 2020 09:16: Jack den Haan Created KOG entry

Discussion

Ruth Tanner (asker) Sep 4, 2020:
I went with Jack’s concept Although the client didn’t respond with any further information, he has accepted my suggestion of "galvanised flat duct connector". This is to match the translation of "instortkanaal" as "galvanised flat duct" (as required by the client), but the concept is the same as "in-slab" or "embedded".

Thanks again for all contributions for this tricky term!
Ruth Tanner (asker) Aug 19, 2020:
Awaiting further information Thanks for all input so far. My extensive searching hasn’t brought up much in any language except Dutch (or perhaps the occasional questionable translation), so I’ve decided to discuss this term with the client. I’ll let you know the upshot!
Ruth Tanner (asker) Aug 14, 2020:
@Jack Oh dear! :-)

Here's another attempt: https://tinyurl.com/yyrz7clq

Hope that works!

(It's page 3 - not sure whether that link will take you straight to the diagram.)
Jack den Haan Aug 14, 2020:
@Ruth Now it's your link that is not working, Ruth ;-) Could you convert and post your link using tinyurl.com, for instance?
Ruth Tanner (asker) Aug 14, 2020:
Diagram of ductwork connections I've found a diagram that might be worth sharing here, as it includes the "instortpotten".

https://www.airspiralo.com/media/documents/Leaflet_AS_NL_luc...
Ruth Tanner (asker) Aug 13, 2020:
@Barbara @Mair Thank you both for your answers.

The "instortpotten" actually seem to be fairly distinctive in design — always basically the same as the photo I linked to. (A very slight variation appears here: https://www.ventilatiedeal.nl/instortpot-o125mm-hoogte-70mm-...

The "T-piece" on the Air Spiralo website does look like the right thing, but my source text lists "T stukken" separately from "instortpotten".

Proposed translations

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embedded or in-slab duct(work) fitting/connector/pot

Think I got it wrong with my first answer (collection or collector pipe/duct/pot/piece). Checking your references and other information, the term 'instort' does not seem to refer to air flow processes but to the suitability of the part concerned for embedding in concrete floors and other structures.

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Note added at 3 days 8 hrs (2020-08-16 15:03:44 GMT)
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A variation on this terminology is 'imbedment'. See https://theconstructor.org/concrete/embedments-reinforced-co... .

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Oops: embedment!

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By the way, if the notion of embedding the part in concrete or whatever is correct, I guess my suggestion of an embedded part should have read 'embeddable'.

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You're welcome, Ruth. Not a bad idea in this case, I think, to translate the term in a completely different way.
Reference:

https://tinyurl.com/y633bzkj

http://www.eccoduct.com/

Note from asker:
Yes, I now have enough information to confirm definitely that "instort" refers to the possibility of embedding the ductwork in concrete — or in other words, concrete can be "poured" around it.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Much appreciated, Jack!"
1 hr

diverter // deflector // guide piece

my suggestion

I'll come up with some references, too

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2020-08-13 07:57:10 GMT)
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or fitting

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Amazon has it, unfortunately I can only find it on the German site:
https://www.amazon.de/Umlenkstück-rund-eckig-Abluftkanal-Lüf...


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This would argue for 'diverter duct':

https://www.us-duct.com/special-duct-fabrications/diverter-v...

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http://www.ductincorporated.com/diverters.html
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6 hrs

t-connector, t-piece

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6 hrs

collection or collector pipe/duct/pot/piece

The English version of the first site you mention (ocuenginerring.nl) translates 'instortpot' as both 'collapsing pot' and 'pouring pot' I doubt whether these translations are correct.

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@Asker: Sorry Ruth, something went wrong with that first link. Here's another go: https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/steel-pipe-fittings-p... .

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@Asker: You're welcome, Ruth!
Reference:

https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/steel-pipe-fittings-plumbing-water-pipes-sewage-different-types-collection-water-tube-industry-gas-va

https://www.dustcollectionpros.com/ancillary.html

Note from asker:
Thanks for your answer, Jack. I think it’s called an "instortpot" because it is used with "instortkanalen". "Instortkanaal" likewise tends to be automatically translated as "collapse channel", but it is actually a "galvanised flat duct". (Unfortunately your first link is coming up as an error for me; I'm not sure why!)
Thanks, Jack; it's working now!
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