shell and core (houses)

French translation: clos couvert/noyau coque

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English term or phrase:shell and core (houses)
French translation:clos couvert/noyau coque
Entered by: Nina Iordache

20:10 Mar 23, 2009
English to French translations [PRO]
Forestry / Wood / Timber / wooden houses
English term or phrase: shell and core (houses)
I do not have a context in English because this is the translated term from Romanian and I need the French term now. Please help.

I found noyau et enveloppe. Is this the right translation of the term, please?
Nina Iordache
Romania
Local time: 03:12
clos couvert/noyau coque
Explanation:
Am intalnit deseori termenul in engleza si de cateva ori in franceza.

Architect's handbook:

"Levels of completion
...
Shell and core: includes building structure, cores and external envelope complete; all vertical services (water, drainage, gas, lifts, HVAC plant and risers, electrical and data riser; perimeter heating, if any, installed; toilets fully plumbed and finished."
http://books.google.ro/books?id=JS3H9aiQs6QC&pg=RA5-PT150&lp...

Cu alte cuvinte, constructia fara finisaje. Este, in mare, acelasi lucru cu "wind and water tight" - ambele contin structura si invelisul/carcasa, etansa, cu tamplarii exterioare si acoperis.

Clos et couvert
"Clos et couvert comprenant prépartion terrassement, gros oeuvre, VRD, Isolation extérieur, chapente bois, couverture, etancheité, menuiserie, serrurerie, carrelage."
https://www.klekoon.com/boamp/BOAMP_3_Detail.asp?ID_appel=63...

"Le gros œuvre auquel s'ajoute la couverture, les menuiseries extérieures, tous les ouvrages participant à l'étanchéité, fournit le clos et le couvert qui fait l'objet de droits."
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gros_œuvre

" L'achèvement du clos-couvert peut être obtenu en quelques jours seulement, car il n'y a pas de temps de séchage. La tendance à mieux isoler les maisons conduit de plus en plus à doubler cette ossature d'une isolation périphérique extérieure en matériau isolant lourd (type fibre de bois par exemple) qui améliore l'isolation, procure un meilleur déphasage thermique au bénéfice du confort d'été et supprime tous les ponts thermiques imputables à l'ossature bois. La maison à ossature bois permet des agrandissements plus économiques et rapides à mettre en oeuvre."
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_en_bois

Sau "noyau-coque"

Domaine(s) : - bâtiment
français
noyau n. m.
Équivalent(s) English core

Définition :
Dans un bâtiment de hauteur importante, partie centrale comprenant les circulations verticales et assurant en tout ou partie la stabilité du bâtiment.

Noyau carapaceSource INIST :
- Vocabulaire multidisciplinaire PASCAL
termes Shell core
http://www.termsciences.fr/-/Index/Rechercher/Classique/Navi...

Am mai gasit si "brut de beton"
Brut de béton Shell and core
celerier.googlepages.com/Propertylexicon-FRENG.xls

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For "(bare) shell" - "Coque (nue)" or gros oeuvre.

Construcţii şi lucrări publice, Electronică şi electrotehnică [COM] Înregistrare completă
FR gros oeuvre
EN fabric
shell
carcass
carcase
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-24 00:25:08 GMT)
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Mais de rien! :)
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Midland Productions
Romania
Local time: 03:12
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Thank you very much, Midland!
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Summary of answers provided
4clos couvert/noyau coque
Midland Productions
3coquille et noyau
Euqinimod (X)
3maison / construction en kit
Bernard Moret
3bâtiment livré clé en mains
swanda


Discussion entries: 3





  

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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
coquille et noyau


Explanation:
En allemand "Schale und Kern". Mais de quoi parle-t-on exactement ?

Euqinimod (X)
Local time: 02:12
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: On parle de la fourniture des maisons en bois. Pourrait-on dire simplement partiellement terminee, ou c'est un peu vague?

Asker: Maintenant je commprends que le terme que je cherche c'est plutot seulement shell et alors, comment dois-je dire maison en stade de coquille...?

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
maison / construction en kit


Explanation:
shell = murs extérieurs + toiture
core = parois intérieures et tous les éléments : électricité, plomberie, etc..

Bernard Moret
France
Local time: 02:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci, Bernard!

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bâtiment livré clé en mains


Explanation:
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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-03-23 22:57:20 GMT)
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"the building
shell and core includes the following:
􀂃 Site improvement allowance adequate to comply with life safety and other zoning set-backs,
including: ground cover, planting, storm water handling systems, vehicle roadways, sidewalks,
lighting, signage, fences, screens, and buffer zones;
􀂃 Base structure, including: foundation, beams, columns, floor slabs, and roof structure that
includes special structural bay spacing and floor-to-floor heights required to accommodate
high-bay industrial and storage applications;
􀂃 Building envelope, including: insulated exterior walls, exterior glazing, roof, and area
separation walls;
􀂃 Common areas, including: entrance vestibule, lobby, roof access stairways, emergency egress
corridors, equipment room, and communication equipment rooms;
􀂃 Public toilets;
􀂃 Electrical and mechanical systems, including: packaged roof-mounted heating and ventilating
units, Building Automation System (BAS), and emergency generator;
􀂃 Combination fire standpipe/sprinkler system and the central fire alarm system;
􀂃 Building utility distribution system, including: potable domestic water, service sanitary drain,
sanitary vent, electrical power distribution panels and circuit breakers in an electrical closet,
designated connection point to the central fire alarm system, and a distribution backboard
within a wire closet; All services will provide for connection to extensions to the tenant
functions;
􀂃 The shell will include one loading dock bay, platform, door, and apron for building services;
􀂃 The security level is Level B, with costs added as a special item for security upgrades.
Items that should be considered special requirements include:
􀂃 Additional loading dock bays, including: platforms and doors to serve tenant activities;
􀂃 Special ventilation, dust removal, filtration and other ventilation systems to serve industrial
processes;
􀂃 Subgrade excavation for tenant equipment or other tenant-driven purposes;
􀂃 Automated material handling and/or retrieval equipment."

http://www.wbdg.org/pdfs/gsa_usc_shell_utility.pdf

swanda
Local time: 02:12
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, that would be shell and core, then!

Asker: Merci pour les explications amples.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Midland Productions: The description given is not for "clés en main" - no fittings included (and not even for shell and core, but for developper standard, which is the next completion step, but still not "clés en main" - which would be "turnkey", as is easy to associate.
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clos couvert/noyau coque


Explanation:
Am intalnit deseori termenul in engleza si de cateva ori in franceza.

Architect's handbook:

"Levels of completion
...
Shell and core: includes building structure, cores and external envelope complete; all vertical services (water, drainage, gas, lifts, HVAC plant and risers, electrical and data riser; perimeter heating, if any, installed; toilets fully plumbed and finished."
http://books.google.ro/books?id=JS3H9aiQs6QC&pg=RA5-PT150&lp...

Cu alte cuvinte, constructia fara finisaje. Este, in mare, acelasi lucru cu "wind and water tight" - ambele contin structura si invelisul/carcasa, etansa, cu tamplarii exterioare si acoperis.

Clos et couvert
"Clos et couvert comprenant prépartion terrassement, gros oeuvre, VRD, Isolation extérieur, chapente bois, couverture, etancheité, menuiserie, serrurerie, carrelage."
https://www.klekoon.com/boamp/BOAMP_3_Detail.asp?ID_appel=63...

"Le gros œuvre auquel s'ajoute la couverture, les menuiseries extérieures, tous les ouvrages participant à l'étanchéité, fournit le clos et le couvert qui fait l'objet de droits."
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gros_œuvre

" L'achèvement du clos-couvert peut être obtenu en quelques jours seulement, car il n'y a pas de temps de séchage. La tendance à mieux isoler les maisons conduit de plus en plus à doubler cette ossature d'une isolation périphérique extérieure en matériau isolant lourd (type fibre de bois par exemple) qui améliore l'isolation, procure un meilleur déphasage thermique au bénéfice du confort d'été et supprime tous les ponts thermiques imputables à l'ossature bois. La maison à ossature bois permet des agrandissements plus économiques et rapides à mettre en oeuvre."
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_en_bois

Sau "noyau-coque"

Domaine(s) : - bâtiment
français
noyau n. m.
Équivalent(s) English core

Définition :
Dans un bâtiment de hauteur importante, partie centrale comprenant les circulations verticales et assurant en tout ou partie la stabilité du bâtiment.

Noyau carapaceSource INIST :
- Vocabulaire multidisciplinaire PASCAL
termes Shell core
http://www.termsciences.fr/-/Index/Rechercher/Classique/Navi...

Am mai gasit si "brut de beton"
Brut de béton Shell and core
celerier.googlepages.com/Propertylexicon-FRENG.xls

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-24 00:17:47 GMT)
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For "(bare) shell" - "Coque (nue)" or gros oeuvre.

Construcţii şi lucrări publice, Electronică şi electrotehnică [COM] Înregistrare completă
FR gros oeuvre
EN fabric
shell
carcass
carcase
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-24 00:25:08 GMT)
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Mais de rien! :)


    Reference: http://www.maisons-et-bois.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?id=...
Midland Productions
Romania
Local time: 03:12
Native speaker of: Romanian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you very much, Midland!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Pour tous, un petit commentaire: Merci, mais il faut poser une question nouvelle: "shell" ...

Asker: Merci, Midland, c'est tres bien!

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