Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
a wider center
French translation:
Dans le centre ville de Prague au sens large
Added to glossary by
Thierry Darlis
Apr 22, 2017 03:03
7 yrs ago
English term
United States
a wider center
English to French
Marketing
Tourism & Travel
airbnb text
The apartment is located in a wider center of Prage
Proposed translations
(French)
| 4 | Dans le centre ville de Prague au sens large |
C. MASKA
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| 4 -1 | in the broader town centre [area] |
Daryo
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| 3 | proche du centre-ville |
Philippe Barré
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Proposed translations
15 hrs
Selected
Dans le centre ville de Prague au sens large
C'est l'explication la plus plausible
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: 13 hours after a native speaker of a closely related Slavic language has deciphered for you the literal translation, you surely have l'embarras du choix ...
12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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2 hrs
English term (edited):
in a wider center
in the broader town centre [area]
this sounds like a word-for-word translation of an expression in Serbian that must be the same in Czech - basically meaning that the location of this property in not in the proper centre of the town / the most central part of the town, but somewhere in a more loosely defined "central area" of the town.
To make a comparison with London if the Zone 1 is to be considered as the "proper centre of London" then "a wider centre" would include the surrounding Zone 2 (and maybe even Zone 3 at a push) while Zone 4, 5 and 6 would be suburbs.
IOW in this ST it's "marketing speak" for "it's almost in the [real/proper] centre of the town" so from the viewpoint of the writer "we can get away with mentioning 'town centre' without being accused of misrepresentation"! (Like in London estate agents' logic Kilburn being "West Hampstead" or Battersea being "South Chelsea" ...)
99% sure of the intended meaning - OTOH there might be a better translation;
here "broader town centre" is used in exactly the same meaning as in the ST:
... Better allows a balance of uses within the broader town centre. ...
http://www.westberks.gov.uk/media/pdf/g/c/Newbury_Town_Centr... page 9
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http://www.diatomaceousearth.co.uk/UK_TFL/tubetrains-and-tub...
To make a comparison with London if the Zone 1 is to be considered as the "proper centre of London" then "a wider centre" would include the surrounding Zone 2 (and maybe even Zone 3 at a push) while Zone 4, 5 and 6 would be suburbs.
IOW in this ST it's "marketing speak" for "it's almost in the [real/proper] centre of the town" so from the viewpoint of the writer "we can get away with mentioning 'town centre' without being accused of misrepresentation"! (Like in London estate agents' logic Kilburn being "West Hampstead" or Battersea being "South Chelsea" ...)
99% sure of the intended meaning - OTOH there might be a better translation;
here "broader town centre" is used in exactly the same meaning as in the ST:
... Better allows a balance of uses within the broader town centre. ...
http://www.westberks.gov.uk/media/pdf/g/c/Newbury_Town_Centr... page 9
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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-04-22 05:17:05 GMT)
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http://www.diatomaceousearth.co.uk/UK_TFL/tubetrains-and-tub...
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Agree with your explanation, though like you, unsure of the best way to express it in EN. It really means 'not right in the centre'. / En effet... I hadn't notice either ;-)
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Thanks! Although there is still the small matter of expressing it in French ...
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writeaway
: English to French, not English monolingual
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yes, I noticed it by now ... I was too busy correcting the English, forgot to translate in French // in fact it's not really monolingual, it's more a corrected translation from Czech!
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2 days 3 hrs
Philippe Barré
France
France
Native in French
Works in field
France
A passion for precision
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
proche du centre-ville
C'est l'expression qu'on trouve dans les annonces : "proche du centre-ville, dans un quartier calme". (idem pour "proche centre")
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: strictly speaking, it couldn't be more accurate than this - but it brings an interesting question of methodology: do you reproduce in your translation the verbal sleight of hand attempted in the ST or use honest plain speak?
1 day 14 hrs
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I was just too damn tired to think of anything else.
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Reference comments
6 hrs
Reference:
Absolute safety and privacy with widows into the green.
Modern spacious flat wider center
About this listing
Luxurious modern flat in new residential manson in green quiet location. One bedroom, living room with kitchen corner and large terrace with outdoor dining area, bathroom, separate toilette, storage and washing room.
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4670027
fwiw. no shortage of English language errors.
About this listing
Luxurious modern flat in new residential manson in green quiet location. One bedroom, living room with kitchen corner and large terrace with outdoor dining area, bathroom, separate toilette, storage and washing room.
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4670027
fwiw. no shortage of English language errors.
11 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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28
Reference:
wider centr of Prague, quiet and safe location
At least this person can spell "Prague" correctly
Reference:
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Daryo
: and they are oblivious to the contradiction between "quiet" and "in the town centre"
15 hrs
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Discussion
To take Paris as an example, I'm not really sure what exactly is perceived as "le centre de Paris" but as:
Le point zéro des routes de France est matérialisé par une dalle située devant Notre-Dame de Paris.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris
let's say that 1 or 2 or 3 km around Notre-Dame would be "le centre de Paris" au sens strict;
now you have an apartment somewhere near "le Boulevard périphérique" - you can't really call that "le centre de Paris" so you declare that this apartment is in the "broadly defined town centre" i.e. you stretch your definition of town centre to include areas more or less close to the real/proper town centre.