Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

shredder (biology/ fisheries)

Spanish translation:

perfador

Added to glossary by AmigadeVencejos
Oct 28, 2020 23:14
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English term

shredder

English to Spanish Science Fisheries salmonids
for a high school glossary of terms related to salmon.
US high school students
I'm looking for a translation and a definition if possible, in Spanish
Proposed translations (Spanish)
3 picadora
2 perforador
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Discussion

Taña Dalglish Nov 4, 2020:
With all due respect AmigadeVencejos, that is not how the ProZ forum works. Translation questions are limited to one question per query. Now, you have said, "But I also need a definition for SCRAPER/ GRAZER = organisms that remove and eat algae growing on rocks in shallow waters"; your original question was for "shredder" and I have provided my thoughts on that question and that question only. You need to familiarise with ProZ rules, i.e. open a new query for each term you need. I am sorry, but this is outside the scope of this question. Regards and stay safe!
AmigadeVencejos (asker) Nov 2, 2020:
OK, my apologies for insufficient context. I am talking about the biology of salmon. So a shredder is an informal term for a group of macroinvertebrate animals that salmon eat. And yes, I have done as much research as I can online. What I am not doing is purchasing a $200 Spanish-English Biology dictionary, since my translation work is all-volunteer.
Taña Dalglish Oct 29, 2020:
@ AmigadeVencejos 2nd request: Is there any indication what the shredded salmon form is? A type of patty, or salmon to make sandwiches, or what? Regards.
Taña Dalglish Oct 29, 2020:
@ AmigadeVencejos I understand you are new to ProZ. However, one of the requirements or perhaps suggestions is that you provide sufficient context. To merely state "shredder" and "salmon" which are really the only two useful words in the text you have provided is grossly insufficient. Sorry, but perhaps look here and see if there is any relevance here? https://www.calorieking.com/us/en/foods/f/calories-in-sandwi... (BTW, ProZ rules also suggest that you attempt to do your own research given that you have the text in front of you! That is not to say that colleagues are not willing to assist anyone! Regards.

Proposed translations

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picadora

Máquina que sirve para picar (desmenuzar, despedazar), en este caso la carne del salmón.
Note from asker:
shredder >perfador grazer/scraper > fragmentador (tal vez; no estoy segura)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Taña Dalglish : Do high schools would have a machine to chop/shred salmon? (Context received: "high school glossary of terms related to salmon", high school students)/I'll post another comment in discussion box, as the Asker is not responding to our queries!
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Honestly I've never encountered such a thing as "shred" salmon. To my knowledge it's commonly served in steak form. I have proposed a rather "standard" translation of the term. It could be used for any kind of meat. Thank you for your message.
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perforador

See reference comment for full details.

Suggested translation to Spanish: perforadores.

Shredders: Shredders are organisms that cut or chew pieces of living or dead plant material, including all plant parts like leaves and wood.

Perforador appears to match your requirement "organisms that feed off of course particulate organic material such as leaves". However, I am not sure hat you mean by two shredder?


Alternative uses of the term “Shredder” - According to our definition, an organism can be considered a shredder if it cuts or breaks plant tissue particles while feeding.


Other questions:
Your other queries will have to be addressed in other questions. You should not use the same query to ask other questions as it interferes with the production of the glossary.
- But I also need a definition for SCRAPER/ GRAZER = organisms that remove and eat algae growing on rocks in shallow waters.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Refs.

https://www.scielo.sa.cr/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S...
Suggested translation to Spanish: perforadores.

Shredders: Shredders are organisms that cut or chew pieces of living or dead plant material, including all plant parts like leaves and wood. The main function of shredders is the breakdown of large particles of plant material into smaller pieces that are then transported downstream or available to other stream consumers (Wallace & Webster, 1996). Shredders also make nutrients available to microbial consumers (Díaz Villanueva et al., 2012). In general, we refer to them as consumers of coarse particulate organic matter (CPOM) and producers of fine particulate organic matter (FPOM). Shredders of living plant material (Sh-Hb in Table 1) are herbivores and miners, like lepidopteran larvae from the families Noctuidae and Tortricidae. Shredders of decomposing plant material (e.g., CPOM, Sh-Dt in Table 1) are detritivores and wood borers.

Organisms that consume living plant tissue are responsible for major herbivory losses by aquatic vascular plants. Chrysomelid beetles are known to specialize on vascular plants and some are used as biocontrols of floating vascular plants (Cronin, Schlacher, Lodge & Siska, 1999). Shredders that consume detritus have received a great deal of attention by stream ecologists. There is a solid amount of evidence demonstrating the importance of macroinvertebrates as decomposers of dead plant material entering aquatic ecosystems (e.g., Webster & Benfield, 1986; Gessner, 1999). There is also evidence that shredding macroinvertebrates increase the amount of fine particles in streams, while it remains unclear how important are these particles to insect collectors (Cuffney et al., 1990; Usio, Konishi & Nakano, 2001).

Suggested translation to Spanish: fragmentadores.

Alternative uses of the term “Shredder” - According to our definition, an organism can be considered a shredder if it cuts or breaks plant tissue particles while feeding. This is the same definition used by Cummins (1973) and Merritt, Craig, Wotton & Walker (2008). However, several studies have used a more general definition by calling any organism that consumes leaf material a shredder regardless of their behavior. Snails provide a good example, their feeding behavior involves the use of a radula to remove tissue by scraping the substrates they are feeding on. According to the FFG definition that we are following here, snails are scrapers no matter what substrate they feed on because functionally they scrape the substrate. If a snail is feeding on a rock it will be likely consuming diatoms, bacteria, fungi and detritus. Individuals feeding over leaf substrates will be consuming plant detritus. Some studies called snails shredders, because their feeding accelerates plant breakdown (e.g., Mullholand, Elwood, Newbold & Ferren, 1985), while other consider this a case where a scraper facilitates the process of organic matter breakdown (Lamberti, Gregory, Ashkenas, Steinman & McIntire, 1989). One could argue either way, the important point is to clarify the use of the term before using it to avoid confusions.



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Note from asker:
I am sorry I didn't answer your inquiries at first. I think I have my preferences set so I now receive an email with each new response.
Here is the definition I have been given in English for TWO SHREDDER = organisms that feed off of course particulate organic material such as leaves
But I also need a definition for SCRAPER/ GRAZER = organisms that remove and eat algae growing on rocks in shallow waters
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