Jul 2, 2002 05:20
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English term
Use of comma and quotation mark
English
Art/Literary
Common sense grammar
I thought that a comma or a period comes before the quotation mark as a rule in American English. But WORD editing says NO. Without getting into the sophisticated controversies, can someone explain to me what is the generally accepted usage in American English? It will help me a lot.
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quotation marks
According to Longman's Guide to English usage periods and commas are inside the quotation marks for direct speech in both BrE and AmE.
BrE puts periods and commas outside the quotation marks in other circumstances, whereas AmE puts them inside the quotation marks:
He has been called "the best singer alive."
In both BrE and AmE, semicolons and colons are outside the quotation marks. The position of other marks depends on whether they belong to the direct speech:
The girl asked "Is that what it means?"
Did she say "It's against my religious principles"?
If both the direct speech and the sentence as a whole are questions, it is clearer to use only one question mark, either inside or outside the quotation marks:
Did she say "Is that what it means?"
Did she say "Is that what it means"?
Hope this helps you!
BrE puts periods and commas outside the quotation marks in other circumstances, whereas AmE puts them inside the quotation marks:
He has been called "the best singer alive."
In both BrE and AmE, semicolons and colons are outside the quotation marks. The position of other marks depends on whether they belong to the direct speech:
The girl asked "Is that what it means?"
Did she say "It's against my religious principles"?
If both the direct speech and the sentence as a whole are questions, it is clearer to use only one question mark, either inside or outside the quotation marks:
Did she say "Is that what it means?"
Did she say "Is that what it means"?
Hope this helps you!
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John Kinory (X)
: I'd be grateful if someone could explain to me the logic of He has been called "the best singer alive." since the full-stop is not part of the appellation :-) But the CSM does have it so {shrug}
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Catherine Bolton
: I have to agree with John. I'm American, and we would say: He has been called "the best singer alive".
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I guess it's a matter of style... But it is the grammatical rule :o)
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See grammatical explanation below.
It all depends. If the comma or the period are part of the sentence inside the quotation marks, they should remain inside. Same for all other punctuation maks pertaining to the quoted sentence.
Example:
>> He told me: "Did you take the books, bags and the map?"
All punctuation marks are kept inside the quotation as part of the original sentence.
Example:
>> He told me: "Did you take the books, bags and the map?"
All punctuation marks are kept inside the quotation as part of the original sentence.
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A reference
Here's
'A Functional Guide to Some Problems of English Punctuation'
for general reference to anyone interested.
http://www.hum.au.dk/engelsk/pages/punctuation.shtml
From the introduction:
-Most guides to punctuation usage are organised under the different punctuation marks. Thus, you can look under 'commas' and find ten different uses of the comma listed, and so on. This is fine if you want to make a full list of all the different things punctuation can do in English. However, it is not so convenient if you have an idea of what you want to do, but don't know which punctuation mark - if any - should be used.
-This guide is organised according to the functions of punctuation, the different things that punctuation can be used for. Hopefully, it will be useful for looking up the solution to specific problems. It is not intended as a systematic and complete account of English punctuation, but concentrates on areas of punctuation use that often cause difficulty.
-Both British and American systems of punctuation are described in cases where these differ.
'A Functional Guide to Some Problems of English Punctuation'
for general reference to anyone interested.
http://www.hum.au.dk/engelsk/pages/punctuation.shtml
From the introduction:
-Most guides to punctuation usage are organised under the different punctuation marks. Thus, you can look under 'commas' and find ten different uses of the comma listed, and so on. This is fine if you want to make a full list of all the different things punctuation can do in English. However, it is not so convenient if you have an idea of what you want to do, but don't know which punctuation mark - if any - should be used.
-This guide is organised according to the functions of punctuation, the different things that punctuation can be used for. Hopefully, it will be useful for looking up the solution to specific problems. It is not intended as a systematic and complete account of English punctuation, but concentrates on areas of punctuation use that often cause difficulty.
-Both British and American systems of punctuation are described in cases where these differ.
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The girl asked, "Is this what it means?"
In BrE, I was always taught to put a comma before the start of the speech, and that punctuation required within the speech always went inside the speech marks.
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Place outside, unless part of material being quoted
Marion asked "Why?"
Have you seen "About a Boy"?
"I'm going to get him back," he said angrily.
He said angrily, "I'm going to get him back."
Have you seen "About a Boy"?
"I'm going to get him back," he said angrily.
He said angrily, "I'm going to get him back."
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John Kinory (X)
: In your 3rd example, 'he' never said the comma that you placed inside the quotation marks.
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