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Aug 25, 2014 14:18
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German term

Semmelschleifmaschinen

German to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering
es geht wieder um die Teigteilmaschinen und Wirkmaschinen. Und in diesem Zusammenhang um Semmelschleifmaschinen. Kann man dazu Bread Roll Grinding Machine sagen? Ich bin mir nicht sicher.
Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 bun roll dividers/bun presses/bun moulders
5 -1 Bread Grinder
3 +1 bun forming machine
2 -1 Dough-molding machine / bun roll machine
References
"schleifen"
Change log

Aug 25, 2014 14:25: Steffen Walter changed "Field (write-in)" from "Semmelschleifmaschinen" to "(none)"

Discussion

Yorkshireman Aug 26, 2014:
Oh Fortuna Fortuna Automat A-3 30 Semmlschleifmaschine
http://www.landwirt.com/gebrauchte,1244812,Sonstige-Fortuna-...

Fortuna Automat A-3 30 Teigteil- und Wirkmaschine
http://www.guezel-handel.de/index.php/teigteil-und-wirkmasch...

Two different names for the same machine

Shown on this page of the same site as a bun roll divider:
http://tinyurl.com/o9v5xod

And here:
http://www.usedmachineryforsale.net/used-bun-roll-divider-fo...
Lancashireman Aug 25, 2014:
with Johanna This is about bread rolls. Lots of demonstrations of the principle and technique on YouTube. First page of a Google search. No idea why the first answer is still on minus one. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the spelling of 'moulding'.
Johanna Timm, PhD Aug 25, 2014:
@ Yorkshireman: nein, "Schleifen" hat nichts mit "ribbons" zu tun!
"schleifen" nennt man das Rundmachen von Brötchenteiglingen
http://ketex.de/blog/fachbegriffe-und-abkurzungen/

Brötchen schleifen:
http://www.helpster.de/broetchen-schleifen-so-formen-sie-bro...
Yorkshireman Aug 25, 2014:
Schleifen I think we may have to think of it as a Semmel-Schleifen-Maschine

I am thinking of those mixing attachments that stretch dough in ribbons (=Schleifen) to make it elastic - sort of a figure eight between the rotating heads.

Which would make it a Wirkmaschine, as suggested by Edith.
Edith Kelly Aug 25, 2014:
jetzt ist alles durcheinander Leitfaden für die Arbeitsplatzevaluierung in Bäckereien
www.arbeitsinspektion.gv.at/.../Leitfaden_Arbeitsplatzevalu...
11. ▫ Semmelstanz- und Gäranlage. ▫ Teigausrollmaschine. ▫ Teigteil- und Wirkmaschine (Semmelschleifmaschine). ▫ Teigteilmaschine (mit Einfülltrichter).
Edith Kelly Aug 25, 2014:
http://www.cafe-28.de/vk.htm nochmals dieselbe Website, diesmal auf denglisch. Hier wird auf grinding machines hingewiesen, aber es sind m.E. - falsche - Übersetzungen.
Edith Kelly Aug 25, 2014:
http://www.cafe-28.de/vk.htm hier Bilder dieser Maschinen
Edith Kelly Aug 25, 2014:
from memory I cannot find this in any of my glossaries but have a feeling that they say polishing and not grinding

Proposed translations

-1
17 mins

Dough-molding machine / bun roll machine

Peer comment(s):
disagree Edith Kelly : neither a molding nor a rolling machine but used to "polish" the buns
16 mins
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-1
2 hrs

Bread Grinder

This is searched from a manufacturer's site, both in English & German versions of the website.
Reference:

http://www.machineseeker.com/A1048429/Fortuna-Fortuna-Automat-3-30.html

http://www.maschinensucher.de/A1048429/Semmelschleifmaschine-Fortuna-Fortuna-Automat-3-30.html#

Peer comment(s):
disagree Johanna Timm, PhD : quote: "Translation errors are possible". schleifen= hier: formen.
26 mins
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+1
4 hrs

bun forming machine

Was man unter "Semmeln/Brötchen schleifen" ist in folgendem Youtube-Link zu sehen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pwV76pGLhQ

Würde ich mit "bun forming machine" übersetzen, siehe auch link
Reference:

http://www.google.com/patents/US2580726

Peer comment(s):
agree Johanna Timm, PhD : ja, siehe meine Referenz unten
37 mins
Dankeschön Johanna!
neutral Lancashireman : bun [noun]: a small cake, typically containing dried fruit http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bun
2 hrs
Es gibt auch andere Definitionen! http://alansmysteriousworld.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/what’s-...
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+2
37 mins

bun roll dividers/bun presses/bun moulders

In a number of ads described as a bread grinder - could be a literal translation - others describe it as a "bun roll divider", "bun press" or "bun moulder"


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Note added at 1 hr (2014-08-25 15:29:07 GMT)
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If you know what it looks like, there's bound to be one here:

http://tinyurl.com/m5x4a4t

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Note added at 5 days (2014-08-31 07:22:10 GMT)
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It's from Liversedge in Yorkshire, so it could well be what we are looking for :-)

http://www.oddyuk.com/roll-divider/
Peer comment(s):
neutral Edith Kelly : shame you squashed your last answer, might be helpful to others to find the right word. And it's neither of your three new proposals.
43 mins
I left it in as a - possibly unlikely - option seen in a number of ads
agree Johanna Timm, PhD : see reference below, http://www.oliverquality.com/bakery-equipment/dough-make-up-... picture:
1 hr
Thanks, Johanna
neutral Lancashireman : bun [noun]: a small cake, typically containing dried fruit http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bun // Re OED Ref 1.1: Incorporate 'bread roll' into your answer, and I will change this to an agree.
7 hrs
Yes and no - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun Bread bun is a common expression in the North, like a teacake, but without dried fruit. And what about item 1.1 from your link? And M-W: a sweet or plain small bread; especially : a round roll
agree billcorno (X) : This link translates to bread divider and bread moulder machine which I think is meant here. http://www.eberhardt-baeckereitechnik.de/Teigteil-_und_Wirkm...
4 days
Thanks!
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Reference comments

2 hrs
Reference:

"schleifen"

Brötchen schleifen= Brötchen formen

"Nun Brot und Brötchen „schleifen“, also formen. Dafür die vier kleinen Teigbälle mit den Händen in einer kreisenden Bewegung über die Arbeitsplatte rollen, bis an der Oberfläche eine Spannung entsteht, an der Unterseite ist durch die drehende Bewegung eine Art Spirale entstanden."
http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/967221202387607/Brot-und-Broe...

bun divider
Accurately scales and rounds individual dough pieces. Head tilts in both directions for easy cleaning. Solid cast iron and heavy gauge construction.
http://www.oliverquality.com/bakery-equipment/dough-make-up-...
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