Mar 28, 2021 07:43
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Russian term
Смысловая основа
Russian to English
Science
IT (Information Technology)
Согласно Н. Винеру информация является не только фундаментом различных коммуникаций, но и смысловой основой всех отношений в обществе (а эта смысловая основа может быть как адекватной, так и деформированной).
Пока что остановился на conceptual basis, но, возможно, conceptual здесь будет слишком широким тремином и есть более точное определение?
Пока что остановился на conceptual basis, но, возможно, conceptual здесь будет слишком широким тремином и есть более точное определение?
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| 3 | conceptual basis |
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| 2 | semantic basis |
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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conceptual basis
Conceptual Basis of Cognitive Mimetics for Information Engineering
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/1828/1/...
[11] Rosenblueth A, Wiener N, Bigelow J 1943 Behavior, purpose and teleology Philosophy of Science 10 (1) 18-24
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[18] Wiener N 1948 Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine (Cambridge, MA: MIT Press)
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Думаю, здесь речь именно о широком понимании информации, как основы общения, а не об узком "семантическом смысле" лингвистических и математических слов и выражений
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/1828/1/...
[11] Rosenblueth A, Wiener N, Bigelow J 1943 Behavior, purpose and teleology Philosophy of Science 10 (1) 18-24
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[18] Wiener N 1948 Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine (Cambridge, MA: MIT Press)
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Думаю, здесь речь именно о широком понимании информации, как основы общения, а не об узком "семантическом смысле" лингвистических и математических слов и выражений
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Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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semantic basis
Semantic is the study of meaning, signs and symbols used for communication. The word is derived from “sema”, a Greek word meaning signs. ... So, when a message is sent by a sender to a receiver, it might be interpreted wrongly in a communication process causing misunderstandings between them
https://www.businesstopia.net/communication/semantic-barrier...
As Wiener points out, the transmission of information defines the extension of a community. In the course of this argument he stresses the importance of the relation of observable behaviour and information. In other words he underlines the close link between the semantic and the pragmatic dimension of communication.
A special role might be attributed to the ability of humans to abstract from semantic content.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.318...
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In his time Norbert Wiener certainly was correct to emphasize the pragmatic dimension of language. He went so far to even collapse the semantic and pragmatic aspect into his definition of information:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.318...
Wiener also encouraged a semantic interpretation
of information theory. In On the Human Use of Human
Beings, a popularization of cybernetics, Wiener (1950)
gave a nonsemantic definition of information as negative entropy, similar to that in Cybernetics. But he then
equated amount of information with the “amount of
meaning” of a message to support his semantic use of
“information” throughout the book
https://monoskop.org/images/f/f2/Kline_Ronald_R_2004_What_Is...
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Shannon, on the one hand, acknowledged different concept of information, even arguing that the word should not be used for his quantitative concept but failing to find a suitable replacement [60]. Wiener, on the other, was clear that signals had semantic content as well as information content [80]
http://www.ephemerajournal.org/contribution/information-cybe...
https://www.businesstopia.net/communication/semantic-barrier...
As Wiener points out, the transmission of information defines the extension of a community. In the course of this argument he stresses the importance of the relation of observable behaviour and information. In other words he underlines the close link between the semantic and the pragmatic dimension of communication.
A special role might be attributed to the ability of humans to abstract from semantic content.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.318...
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In his time Norbert Wiener certainly was correct to emphasize the pragmatic dimension of language. He went so far to even collapse the semantic and pragmatic aspect into his definition of information:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.318...
Wiener also encouraged a semantic interpretation
of information theory. In On the Human Use of Human
Beings, a popularization of cybernetics, Wiener (1950)
gave a nonsemantic definition of information as negative entropy, similar to that in Cybernetics. But he then
equated amount of information with the “amount of
meaning” of a message to support his semantic use of
“information” throughout the book
https://monoskop.org/images/f/f2/Kline_Ronald_R_2004_What_Is...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2021-03-28 13:00:36 GMT)
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Shannon, on the one hand, acknowledged different concept of information, even arguing that the word should not be used for his quantitative concept but failing to find a suitable replacement [60]. Wiener, on the other, was clear that signals had semantic content as well as information content [80]
http://www.ephemerajournal.org/contribution/information-cybe...
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