Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

tussig

English translation:

highfalutin, stilted, toplofty, posh, conceited, "princess", catty, obnoxious, show-off

Added to glossary by Anne Schulz
Nov 9, 2016 19:13
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German term

tussig

Non-PRO German to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Describing people
What does 'tussig' mean here? The video is subtitled but I've been told it does not mean 'arrogant'

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https://youtu.be/j8EEV4hDYIQ
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Nov 11, 2016 16:54: Anne Schulz Created KOG entry

Nov 11, 2016 16:55: Anne Schulz changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/90691">Anne Schulz's</a> old entry - "tussig"" to ""highfalutin, stilted, toplofty, conceited, "princess", catty, obnoxious, show-off""

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2016:
Thusnelda "Thusnelda, war die Gattin des Cheruskerfürsten Arminius. Sie geriet in römische Gefangenschaft, welche sie ungebrochen und heldenmütig ertrug – so beschreibt sie der römische Geschichtschreiber Tacitus. Seit dieser Zeit galt Thusnelda als Sinnbild der guten, edlen, germanischen Frau. Erst im 19. Jahrhundert wurde der Name im Sinne einer ungebildeten nervigen bis liederlichen Frau negativ umgedeutet. Ob dafür Kleists 'Herrmannsschlacht' verantwortlich ist, die von vielen Schülergenerationen unfreiwillig durchgeackert worden ist? Die abgeschnittene blonde Locke Thusneldas mag pubertäre Fantasien beflügelt haben. Ein anderer Grund kann die Mode gewesen sein, Mädchen aus den ärmeren Ständen nach der edlen Thusnelda zu nennen. Diese waren häufig gezwungen ihren Lebensunterhalt als Dienstmädchen zu verdingen, wo sie dann 'Thuschen' gerufen wurden. Daraus entstand später, die heute sehr gebräuchliche abwertende 'Tu__ssi'"
http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/wie-wuerdet-ihr-das-wort-tuss...

See also:
http://sites.arte.tv/karambolage/de/das-portrat-die-tussi-ka...
Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2016:
PS Although I'd have to add that even in the original sense, "tussig" is typically said about people that are arrogant without anything "to back it up" (thinking of a Beyonce song here, sorry if that's not clear), e.g., one of the "rougher types." Maybe that helps (from an Austrian book):
"Dabei wechselt die Autorin manchmal abrupt zwischen getragenem Pathos und Wiener Jargon, das hochliterarisch anmutende 'wiewohl' steht im Kontrast zu Ausdrücken wie 'die tussige Wienerin' (S. 34) oder 'Angefressenes Schweigen.' (S. 157) Es versinnbildlicht das Missverhältnis zwischen hehrem Kunststreben und groben Lebensverhältnissen."
http://www.dine-petrik.com/rezensionen.html

If that doesn't, I got a nice description of the word's origin here.
Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2016:
They had a discussion about this in the Youtube comment section:
- Tussig does not mean arrogant in German. It means feminine.
- naja es ist einfach ein arrogantes mädchen (it means that a girl is really arrogant)
- I'd say it's a mix of both.
- It actually means kinda diva-like. If you're in Austria Standard German really seems quite arrogant compared to Austrian accents. And you clearly can tell the difference"

I suppose it depends on what was going through the girl's head when she said it. But that I don't know, of course.
Thomas Pfann Nov 9, 2016:
Ah, I see. But I don't agree - can't see that at all.
Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2016:
@Thomas tussig = tuntig
Thomas Pfann Nov 9, 2016:
@Björn: What do you mean when you say 'talk like a fairy'?
Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2016:
@Thomas and Phil I watched the video. While I agree with you regarding the general meaning of "tussig," did you pay close attention to the example the other girl gave beforehand as well as the expression on her face?

I actually think she means "talk like fairy" here - yes, in that offensive way.
Thomas Pfann Nov 9, 2016:
I think it can mean 'arrogant' (and might well mean 'arrogant' in the video). Bit full of themselves, haughty, snobbish, stuck-up, pompous...

This test is about "Wie tussig bist du?" and you can find out "ob du eher unscheinbar bist oder doch eher 'ne Angebertusse!" http://www.testedich.de/quiz21/quiz/1157715517/Wie-tussig-bi...

And these teenagers are discussing what images the name Michelle conjures up. One of the teenagers says it sounds 'tussig' and when asked whether she means that in the sense of 'assig' or in the sense of 'eingebildet' she confirms it sounds 'eingebildet'. http://www.urbia.de/archiv/forum/th-4179030/michelle-schubla...

So I guess it can mean mean different things to different people, but mostly the idea is one of arrogance.
philgoddard Nov 9, 2016:
I've found it used of women, and it appears to mean something like "high maintenance", ie full of themselves, self centred, superficial. Is that the right idea?
philgoddard Nov 9, 2016:
To save you watching the video It's a vox pop in Vienna asking people what they think about Germany, and specifically the way they speak. The person says that it sounds "ein bisschen tussig".

Proposed translations

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highfalutin, stilted, toplofty

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Or just "posh".

Peer comment(s):

agree Axel Dittmer : works here, because they are talking about language. Usually 'tussig' is more about fashion, appearance. Paris Hilton wannabes. https://books.google.de/books?id=ojv9sR8vds4C&pg=PT54&lpg=PT...
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Danke Axel :-)
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a show-off

Seems to be Austrian vernacular. Sounds like Germans often strike them as being show-offs. Compare with link below:
http://www.testedich.at/quiz21/quiz/1157715517/Wie-tussig-bi...
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11 hrs

obnoxious

As a mother of two Austrian-German-speaking teenage daughters, I can confirm that Phil's interpretation is spot on! But the kids here in Austria are using the word Tussi or tussig at the moment to mean more or less anything, everything and nothing, to be honest. BUt here I feel that obnoxious comes closest to what this girl means.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Anne Schulz : I agree with you that "tussig" is used for more or less anything these days, but neither the girl's expression when she says "tussig", nor the "naa" example brought forward by the other girl look or sound like "obnoxious :-((" to me.
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12 hrs

catty

is my immediate thought, referring to a woman (Sprache) usually who is sharp-witted, wily and deceitful - not to be trusted
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18 hrs

conceited

Just an idea...
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Reference comments

1 day 9 hrs
Reference:

"princess"

an American take on this; up to you if putting Gänsefüßchen around it is enough to make it usable in the UK; Axel Dittmer's introduction of Paris Hilton into these proceedings is spot-on
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