Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

businessly

English answer:

not a word!

Added to glossary by mockingbird (X)
May 13, 2005 09:50
19 yrs ago
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English term

businessly

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Does the word 'businessly' exist? can i use it in the context below as an advertb?

Meanwhile, in separate occasion, the vice president of PT Bosowa Group Erwin Aksa, affirmed that the Vice President Jusuf Kalla businessly was not related to the ownership of PT Semen Bosowa Maros. “We do have a familial relationship, but businessly there is no any relation at all,” Erwin said in Jakarta yesterday (12/5).

Discussion

Can Altinbay May 13, 2005:
A side note - Don't say "related to the ownership", say "related to the owners".

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not a word!

Sorry, that's definitely not a word - you didn't ask for alternatives, but 'on a business level' is possible, as is 'we do not have a business relationship'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Balasubramaniam L.
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agree awilliams
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agree Aisha Maniar
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agree Craig Meulen
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agree Daphne Theodoraki
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agree cmwilliams (X)
40 mins
agree npis : Haven't seen it used as such, looks and sounds very awkward the way the asker used it.
46 mins
agree Henrique Serra
1 hr
agree pike
1 hr
agree Robert Donahue (X) : I beg to differ though, is it in fact a word. You just can't use it and hope to be taken seriously. That said, I found 306 references to it. Tongue in cheek I hope. :-)
1 hr
OK, OK, for 'word' read 'English word'. It is a word in the sense of 'string of orthographic characters/phonemes with space either side' but not in the sense of 'a sequence of sounds an English speaker would produce'...
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
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agree tappi_k
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agree Alfa Trans (X)
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agree RHELLER : have never heard of it!
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agree Francina
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agree conejo : You could say "but there is no business relationship at all"
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agree airmailrpl : -
5 hrs
agree Can Altinbay : I guess it would depend on your definition of "word", Robert. I looks like one, but it ain't a proper one. Angela's secon suggestion and conejo's.
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agree Alexandra Tussing
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Well, this is the safest answer i can choose, thanks for all answerers who have tried to help"
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1 min

commercially

Commercially just to replace you word with the correct one and leave the rest unchanged;

but probably better to say "there is no business relationship whatsoever" or similar.
Peer comment(s):

agree Balasubramaniam L. : Your second option is agreeable to me, but the first, well...
14 mins
actually I only just notided the horror of "no any relation", I read it as "no relation". But I'd say "business relationship" anyway, so.... :-)
agree Aisha Maniar : agree with Balasubramaniam that your second option is better and clearer; the first one's OK too :-)
23 mins
thanks
neutral Can Altinbay : Commercially doesn't fit here at all. The second suggestion is good.
10 hrs
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+3
1 min

in terms of business, there is no relation at all // there is no professional relation at all

Businessly is not a word, sorry.

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Note added at 2 mins (2005-05-13 09:52:51 GMT)
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\'Businesslike\' is a word but it describes someone who behaves like a businessman/woman.

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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-13 09:53:24 GMT)
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\"Business relationship\" is also a good option
Peer comment(s):

agree Balasubramaniam L. : Business relationship is good.
15 mins
agree Arcoiris : Wow! my PC must be very slow this morning. the question just appeared for me, I posted my answer and then I see millions before me ;)
35 mins
agree Can Altinbay : I like your second suggestion, as well as the one in the notes.
10 hrs
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5 mins

in business

is the simplest way to handle it:
"...but in business there is no relationship at all."
Or:
"...but there is no business relationship at all" is even shorter.

But "businessly" is definitely NOT a word...
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we may have a family relationship but no business relations at all

sic
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+2
9 mins

had no commercial ties with

give "businessly" the old heave-ho
Peer comment(s):

agree Balasubramaniam L. : I will give you a hand in doing it.
8 mins
thank you kind sir
agree Can Altinbay
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33 mins

see explanation

Businessly is not an English word. In the first part of your sentence you don't even need it, as you can phrase it simply as follows:

"The vice president was not related to the ownership ..."
(ownership of a comercial enterprise already implies some sort of business)

In the second part you could say:

"We have a familial relationship, but no business relation at all"
Peer comment(s):

neutral RHELLER : angie gave this response earlier and relation is not the same as relationship
3 hrs
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+3
1 hr

had no business links to / businesswise

Meanwhile, on a separate occasion, the vice president of PT Bosowa Group Erwin Aksa affirmed that the Vice President Jusuf Kalla had no business links with/to PT Semen Bosowa Maros. “We do have a family relationship, but businesswise there is no relation at all,” Erwin said in Jakarta yesterday (12/5).

In the above slightly amended version, I recommend one formal expression (have business links with/to) as well as a more informal one (businesswise) that may be appropriate for the quotation.
Peer comment(s):

agree Balasubramaniam L. : Nicely put, though it borders on spoon-feeding....//You always have the last laugh!
6 mins
I learn from the best (see: on the heels of)... // Yes, and I have a rather questionable track record in that respect.
agree Vicky Papaprodromou : "Businesswise" would fit. Just woke up and ready for today! :-)
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neutral Mikhail Kropotov : "Businesswise" is colloquial and wrong if you go by grammar books
2 hrs
Businesswise (an adverb) is definitely informal, but also definitely correct if used in the right place, as in the statement above. See this study: http://www.uni-siegen.de/~engspra/Papers/Morphology/DaltPlag...
agree Robert Donahue (X) : Actually, I think "businesswise" would work just fine here. It's from a quotation after all.
4 hrs
A big thanks to the native speaker.
neutral Can Altinbay : Sorry, I can't agree with Robert here. People may say it, but it would not be proper.//I don't even think it's a word (try a dictionary before deciding). ---wise is a construction you should avoid in general, it's clunky.//Whatever. It's still clunky.
9 hrs
If people say it, it will end up in the dictionaries eventually, improper or not. There are six hits for business-wise in http://news.bbc.co.uk/, and here is Larry King: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/10/08/trump.tran...
neutral Charlie Bavington : to us UK reactionaries, any -wise construction (apart from clockwise!) smacks of USA MBA-speak and as such is to be avoided, plaguewise, should another solution exist, constructionwise :-)
11 hrs
That's relentless wisecracking :-)))
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technically

businessly is definitely out.

"Technically" is not a better alternative, but since all the better ones have already been suggested by others, I am bringing this in as no one else has (so far) thought of it. It might just serve your purpose, although I admit, it is rather weak when compared to the other suggestions.

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Note added at 20 mins (2005-05-13 10:10:26 GMT)
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If you accept this, the second \"businessly\" would have to be replaced by something like \"as regards to business\" or \"as far as business is concerned\" or something like that.

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Note added at 6 hrs 22 mins (2005-05-13 16:12:27 GMT)
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Hi Rita,

This is the meaning of technical that applies here:

5. legally such; such in strict interpretation (eg., technical assault, lost on a techincal point).

This is the fifth meaning listed for technical in Concise Oxford Dictionary, edition, 1990. If you have a larger dictionary, it will give you more detailed meaning for technical in this sense.

Technical in this sense has nothing to do with machines and mechanics, as you probably thought, but more to the legal aspect of it.
Peer comment(s):

neutral RHELLER : what does technically have to do with business?/sorry, but it still does not work because it needs to be a word which contrasts with family
3 hrs
Please see the comment I have added to my answer...//All I can say is that I don't consider it to be the best alternative myself, and only suggested it as an "also ran" type.
neutral Can Altinbay : Sorry, the context doesn't justify that definition. I don't want to discourage probing, though, please don't misunderstand.
10 hrs
Thanks.
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