Jan 25, 2007 23:39
17 yrs ago
Spanish term

frescos de corte erasmista

Spanish to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting historical artwork
How is this best rendered in English? It comes from Guadalajara, Spain:

Mientras que el exterior recuerda a una severa construccion militar, el interior alberga bovedas bellamente ornamentadas con *frescos de corte erasmista*.

Proposed translations

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Erasmus style frescos

Leave the name as it is in English. We wouldn't say "Michelangelian" or "Michelangelic"
Peer comment(s):

agree Noni Gilbert Riley : Quite. Wha ton earth is this style anyway??!
44 mins
agree Annissa 7ar
2 days 5 hrs
disagree Mauricio Coitiño : The original expression refers to erasmism, which was widespread among Spanish intellectuals, and not to Erasmus teachings directly. The word "style" is misleading and "Eramus" introduces a reference to a person who was not an artist nor an art theorist.
3 days 12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I finally decided to use this term with a hyphen (Erasmus-style...). Thanks to all who contributed."
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Erasmist-like frescoes

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Erasmian style frescos

Could also be "Erasmic" (although it seems a little odd to apply it to a fresco... )

By extension, Higuera finds in Don Quixote an Erasmian-style questioning of ... Higuera concludes that “Don Quixote contains an Erasmian-style analysis of ...
www.h-net.org/~cervantes/csa/artics97/johnston.htm

non-existent tome, and as such, in Erasmian style, it invited the reader to laugh. at the anonymous ‘Author’ as part of the system of dishonesty they ...
www.hss.iitb.ac.in/upendra/Papers/PAPERS/PDF/condren.pdf

His wife Mildred was a devout and practical Bible-reading Protestant but also (like Elizabeth) a scholar in the Erasmian style: she translated theology from ...
www.thetablet.co.uk/cgi-bin/book_review.cgi?past-00173

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Oops. I meant "frescoEs" ...
Peer comment(s):

agree Denise DeVries
39 mins
thank you!
agree Margarita Gonzalez
1 hr
thanks!
agree Victoria Lorenzo
5 hrs
thank you!
agree Aïda Garcia Pons
6 hrs
thank you, too!
neutral Mauricio Coitiño : There's no such thing as an Erasmian style in painting. This could lead to confusion.
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Merriam-Webster's defines the term as "of, relating to, or in the manner of Desiderius Erasmus " so while I noted it is odd to use it in reference to a painting, I assume the subject matter is "humanistic"
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Erasmian-like frescos

Erasmian-like con-. siderations were left behind. Questions such as the author’s exaggerated praise. of his own work as proof of nonapostolicity no longer ...
www.oup.com/pdf/0195138856_01.pdf -

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Another option might be "Erasmia(n)-inspired/influenced frescos/frescoes"

fresco (frès´ko) noun
plural *frescoes or frescos*
1. The art of painting on fresh, moist plaster with pigments dissolved in water.
2. A painting executed in this way.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation. All rights reserved.
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frescoes of Erasmist inspiration

No se trata de un estilo pictórico, sino de una corriente de pensamiento que influyó en los contenidos del arte religioso.

De Wikipedia:
El erasmismo fue una corriente ideológica y estética dentro del Humanismo renacentista, centrada en las ideas del holandés Erasmo de Rotterdam (1466-1536)

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JSTOR: Melanges d'Histoire du XVIe Siecle offerts a Henri Meylan- [ Traduzca esta página ]... pastors in the years 538-1616 by J.-F. Bergier, a rather too discursive piece on the Erasmist inspiration behind the Colloquy of Poissy by Alain Dufour, ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0013-8266(197207)87%3A344%3C621%3AMDDXSO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-F


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From "A History of the Inquisition of Spain", Volume Three, by
Henry Charles Lea, on the online library of the Academy of Research Historians of Medieval Spain (http://libro.uca.edu/lea3/8lea3.htm):
[...]The danger impending over Erasmists is still more forcibly illustrated by the case of one who was regarded as perhaps the foremost among them in Spain. No man stood higher for learning and culture than Doctor Juan de Vergara[...] Charles left Spain the same year, carrying with him some of the most powerful protectors of the Erasmists, and the inquisitors, who were largely [415] frailes [...]
[...] among them was Bernardino de Tovar, also an Erasmist, half-brother of Vergara, who incurred her enmity by rescuing him from her clutches. [...]



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http://www.askoxford.com/languages/culturevulture/spain/cerv...

Due to the itinerant life-style of the family, little is known of his formal education until he turns up in Madrid as a rather mature pupil of the Erasmist Juan López de Hoyos in 1568

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From Encyclopaedia Britannica's Guide to Shakespeare:

The head of a municipal school in Madrid, a man with Erasmist intellectual leanings named Juan López de Hoyos, refers to a Miguel de Cervantes as his “beloved pupil.”

http://search.eb.com/shakespeare/article-9108503
Peer comment(s):

neutral Patricia Rosas : I think your solution ("inspiration") is good and realistic, but there is no such word as "Erasmist" -- the adj. form is Erasmian
1 hr
The adjective doesn't refer directly to Erasmus, but to erasmism, as I explained.
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