May 1, 2008 05:08
16 yrs ago
Russian term
vory v zakone
Russian to English
Social Sciences
History
Russian history, GULAG, urki, prison hierarchy
" Known as urki, blatnoi or if they were among the criminal world's most exclusive elite, vory v zakone -the expression translates as ** thieves-in-law ** - Russian professional criminals lived by a whole set of rules and customs which preceded the Gulag, and which outlasted it."
As I do not speak, write or understand any Russian at all, please try to explain only in English.
Thank you so much for your assistance!
As I do not speak, write or understand any Russian at all, please try to explain only in English.
Thank you so much for your assistance!
Proposed translations
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| 5 +4 | see |
Fernsucht
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| 4 +2 | made man |
Michael Tovbin
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Proposed translations
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see
Please see this link, will surely help
Just thought maybe I should answer :)
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/russian_to_english/law:_contracts/...
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-05-01 05:16:37 GMT)
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sorry
here
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:MZBaY81g0QYJ:www.proz.c...
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-05-01 05:17:20 GMT)
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it's the same link, but now it should work
Just thought maybe I should answer :)
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/russian_to_english/law:_contracts/...
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-05-01 05:16:37 GMT)
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sorry
here
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:MZBaY81g0QYJ:www.proz.c...
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-05-01 05:17:20 GMT)
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it's the same link, but now it should work
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jack Doughty
: Just http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2275327 will get you there.
1 hr
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| agree |
val_legrand
2 hrs
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| agree |
Oleg Osipov
5 hrs
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| agree |
Mikhail Kropotov
8 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your support!"
+2
7 mins
Michael Tovbin
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Related KudoZ points
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4
made man
This is the closest you will get. Do a search in the glossaries as well. This has already been discussed.
However, for the Russian equivalent you do not have to "make your bones" by killing someone. Rather, the Russian career criminals value criminal vocations that do not involve killing. In fact, one cannot be "crowned" vor-v-zakone if one has blood on one's hand. One has to be a house thief, a safe cracker, or similar and achieve prison "status" to get crowned.
However, for the Russian equivalent you do not have to "make your bones" by killing someone. Rather, the Russian career criminals value criminal vocations that do not involve killing. In fact, one cannot be "crowned" vor-v-zakone if one has blood on one's hand. One has to be a house thief, a safe cracker, or similar and achieve prison "status" to get crowned.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Vladimir Dubisskiy
: actually, i believe your 'career criminal' is a better option here.
1 hr
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career criminal - рецидивист, но не обязательно в законе
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Mikhail Kropotov
: Agree with the explanation but not the translation (made man)
8 days
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