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Mar 2, 2009 08:43
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French term

foyer épidemique

French to English Science Livestock / Animal Husbandry
foyer d'épidémie de FCO dans les élevages!
Outbreak ça peut faire?

Discussion

kashew Mar 3, 2009:
So what did you use, C?
Michael GREEN Mar 3, 2009:
Hummm .. I am in no position to give lessons on epidemiology, SJLD, and if I misunderstood your emphasis on epizootic, I apologise. My only intention was to call attention to the choice between "outbreak" and "epidemic", both of which are frequently used in general literature, and especially the media (from which Catherine's text is perhaps taken). As you point out, it depends on the target readership.
SJLD Mar 3, 2009:
I was not suggesting that epizootic be used here but since we were being given a few lessons is epidemiology, I wanted to clear things up. Please understand that the size of the "foyer" has nothing to do with the extent of the "épidémie". Here I would use "outbreak" to avoid "epidemic" which is incorrect in an animal population, if epizootic is judged to be "out of place". But it depends on the target readership. BTW I don't see Rachel giving any opinion apart from agreeing with "centre of the epidemic".
Michael GREEN Mar 3, 2009:
Epidemic, outbreak or epizootic ? I tend to agree with Rachel - IMHO, unless this is from a medical paper or report, "epizootic", however correct it may be from a professional point of view, is out of place in any other context.
However, the choice remains between "epidemic source" and "outbreak source" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic
http://infectiousdiseases.about.com/od/basics/a/outbreaks.ht...
How widespread is this outbreak, Catherine ?
SJLD Mar 2, 2009:
foyer d'épidémie This refers to the place (or geographical zone) where the epidemic, or more correctly epizootic in this case, began. The number of animals affected has nothing to do with how you translate "foyer". One sick animal can be the source of an epizootic. Focus is a perfectly acceptable solution and in no way implies that there are several locations. Outbreak is more or less synonymous with epidemic, and again the choice of word has nothing to do with size. My opinion as an epidemiologist.

Proposed translations

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epidemic source

* outbreak centre

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-03-02 09:05:28 GMT)
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epicentre if really localised

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Note added at 31 mins (2009-03-02 09:14:45 GMT)
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If it's not the place from which there was a spread, yes, then centre sounds excellent. Focus hints at there being several locations in addition to a centre.

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Outbreak is better than epidemic for a small section of a herd.
Note from asker:
je me demande si outbreak centre serait pas mieux, en combinant tes suggestions??
je crois que epidemic centre ou même focus serait mieux, il s'agit de quelques bêtes malades ici et là, qu'en pesnes-tu?
it is really localized, a few cattle only
Peer comment(s):

agree mimi 254 : outbreak
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agree Michael GREEN : Centre of outbreak ? See eg http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/aug/06/immigrationpo... - "outbreak centre" might suggest the State unit dealing with it ?
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neutral SJLD : actually the correct term is epizootic in animals - focus is also correct and has no connotation of several locations/yes, there are cases of disease elsewhere, but the focus is where the epidemic started and from where it spread
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I was trying to say, albeit clumsily, if there's a focus of an outbreak there would normally be others less focussed/concentrated in one place.
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centre of the epidemic

IATE definition + It also seems to me to be more natural English. It's what you'd hear on a news report for example.
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Fell : http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/21... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/faster-cull-c...
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agree writeaway : IATE is always the best place to start any research for this sort of terminology
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outbreak

After much reflection (and quite a bit of research), I would just use "outbreak" on its own. Forget about centre, source or focus. More context would have been helpful.

http://www.vocabularyserver.com/agrovoc/en/?tema=16715
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : agree-context is sorely lacking, as is Asker's own solution /kudoz used to be wonderful place for learning and seeing great discussions amongst real pros in the various field. and for learning by researching really challenging questions. sigh.
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pity, when we all can learn from the intellectual exchange - lot of taking, little giving
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Reference comments

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Reference:

support for outbreaks

http://www.gishealthportal.ca:8080/wp_climate/?p=683

Abstract: Bluetongue virus (BTV) exists around the world in a broad band covering much of the Americas, Africa, southern Asia and northern Australia. Historically, it also occasionally occurred in the southern fringes of Europe. It is considered to be one of the most important diseases of domestic livestock. Recently BTV has extended its range northwards into areas of Europe never before affected and has persisted in many of these locations causing the greatest epizootic of bluetongue (BT), the disease caused by BTV, on record. Indeed, the most recent outbreaks of BT in Europe are further north than this virus has ever previously occurred anywhere in the world. The reasons for this dramatic change in BT epidemiology are complex but are linked to recent extensions in the distribution of its major vector, Culicoides imicola, to the involvement of novel Culicoides vector(s) and to on-going climate-change. This paper investigates these recent outbreaks in the European theatre, up to the beginning of 2006, highlights prospects for the future and sets the scene for the following papers in this special issue.
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