Jan 31, 2010 19:23
14 yrs ago
French term
United Kingdom
revenance
French to English
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Comme Bradley et son ami perdu, comme le général avec sa petite armée morte, presque systématiquement Eastwood met en scène la « revenance » d’une figure lointaine ou évanescente
This is a neologism so you won't find it in the dictionary and I could describe it as 'coming back from the dead' or 'returning from death' but as it is a big favourite as a literary theme, has anyone come accross a term for it in English (i.e as a theme in literary criticism - on Poe or something?
This is a neologism so you won't find it in the dictionary and I could describe it as 'coming back from the dead' or 'returning from death' but as it is a big favourite as a literary theme, has anyone come accross a term for it in English (i.e as a theme in literary criticism - on Poe or something?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | revenance |
Carruthers (X)
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| 4 | fantasy (figure) |
margaret caulfield
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| 3 +1 | the way a distant figure (continues to) haunt(s) memories |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 | rematerialization |
philgoddard
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| 4 | ghostly presence/spirit |
Catherine Gilsenan
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| 3 | ghost |
Verginia Ophof
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Proposed translations
+3
1 hr
Selected
revenance
why not, as much a neologism in English as in French. I get 3560 ghits in English.
you do have "revenant" in English: a person who returns after a long absence, especially from the dead; a ghost
(c) Larousse plc. All rights reserved
you could even go for something like "the recurring theme of revenance, the return of a faraway figure...
you do have "revenant" in English: a person who returns after a long absence, especially from the dead; a ghost
(c) Larousse plc. All rights reserved
you could even go for something like "the recurring theme of revenance, the return of a faraway figure...
Peer comment(s):
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Bourth (X)
: Esp. since I'm not sure it's about the "coming back" as the "state of coming-backability"./No, that's a sort of combination of Harry's invisibility cloak and Hermione's "squeeze three days into one" potion.
22 mins
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or would it be 'coming-backhood'?
thanks Bourth
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kashew
: Chic - maybe in italics?
10 hrs
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italics of course, thank you kashew
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Alan Douglas (X)
: The following link is to a long (6 page) article entirely devoted to "revenance" - 'Poe, ou les effets de fantastiques liés à la "revenance"', Le fantastique dans tous ces états, Presses de l'Université de Provence, pp. 53-67. Well worth a read.
23 hrs
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thanks for that Alan/thanks for the link, an apt way to describe the syndrome of when your own demons come back from the past to haunt you! In fact, I did come across quite a few refs under psychiatry.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
3 mins
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
Native in English
Belize
Near Native Proficiency in Source langua
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Dutch to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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16
ghost
suggestion
9 mins
margaret caulfield
Native in English
Accurate, natural and very hard-working
Native in: English 
, Spanish
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
fantasy (figure)
Something seen in the imagination and projected in the film.
+1
2 hrs
the way a distant figure (continues to) haunt(s) memories
I take it this refers to Flags of our Fathers and/or Letters from Iwo Jima. In the former, it's all flashbacks and memories, if I remember right; in the second, the letters could be said to constitute (a state of) revenance, one step removed.
Also, it might not be so much the "coming back" of a figure as the memories others have of them, like old soldier in Flags - was it Bradley? - calling out repeatedly as battle rages "Where is he?", then as he suffers a heart attack on the stairs in old age, remembering his buddy Iggy who had disappeared, subsequently found to have been captured by the Japansies, pulled through a trapdoor at the bottom of a shell hole and tortured to death.
Memories, then, or the ability to haunt the memories of survivors.
Also, it might not be so much the "coming back" of a figure as the memories others have of them, like old soldier in Flags - was it Bradley? - calling out repeatedly as battle rages "Where is he?", then as he suffers a heart attack on the stairs in old age, remembering his buddy Iggy who had disappeared, subsequently found to have been captured by the Japansies, pulled through a trapdoor at the bottom of a shell hole and tortured to death.
Memories, then, or the ability to haunt the memories of survivors.
Peer comment(s):
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Carruthers (X)
: nicely put, as in 'the state of revenance, the way a distant figure (continues to) haunt(s) memories'
22 mins
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4 hrs
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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47
rematerialization
Or reappearance.
28 mins
Catherine Gilsenan
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
A Professional Service Handled With Care
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
ghostly presence/spirit
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-02-01 10:16:17 GMT)
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Or "haunting image", or "ghostly figure".
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-02-01 10:16:17 GMT)
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Or "haunting image", or "ghostly figure".
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