Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

sich halten an jdn.

English translation:

to hold sb liable

Added to glossary by Rebecca Garber
Apr 21, 2010 02:04
14 yrs ago
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German term

sich halten an jdn.

German to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) real estate, land transactions
This concerns a building, which was sold with a considerable defect: the building's owner had been informed that it was too tall and that several stories had to be removed. The owner sold the building to avoid this, did not inform the buyer, and the buyer sued.

Hier hatten die Parteien sich auf ein Grundstück mit einer ganz bestimmten Mietskaserne geeinigt, die eine ganz bestimmte Höhe hatte. Nun musste der Käufer jedoch ein oder mehrere Geschosse abtragen, was nicht nur Kosten verursachte, sondern auch die erzielbaren Mieteinkünft schmälerte. Das Grundstück verlor dadurch erheblich an Wert. **Konnte sich der Käufer deswegen and den Verkäufer halten?**

The glossaries and dictionaries I have offer: follow someone, or adhere to, comply with, stick to some*thing*.
Could the buyer therefore adhere to the seller? sounds very odd to me.
I know it has to do with liability, and holding the seller liable for the buyer's losses. However, how do I get this meaning out of the German?

Discussion

hazmatgerman (X) Apr 26, 2010:
@Gardner, thanks for this explanation - was new to me. Regards.
Rebecca Garber (asker) Apr 25, 2010:
The original is fine It's actually quite specific to Classical Rome: the context is the difficulty in transferring a piece of land with a building. It was easier to transfer the building than the property beneath it. In this specific case, *both* were being sold.
hazmatgerman (X) Apr 25, 2010:
Just for the German term "das Grundstück verlor an Wert": should that not read "die Immobilie verlor an Wert " instead?

Proposed translations

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to hold sb liable

Dietl/Lorenz :)

or: "to have recourse to sb."

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Note added at 14 mins (2010-04-21 02:18:54 GMT)
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the second one sounds weird to me, though (but it's in the dictionary)
Peer comment(s):

agree Johanna Timm, PhD : or: "take recourse against" "http://shortify.com/10184
1 hr
agree Jon Fedler
1 hr
agree Norbert Hermann
4 hrs
agree David Wright : or David Hollywood's suggestion, which is almost the same
5 hrs
agree Steffen Beilich : to hold sb. liable
7 hrs
agree Rolf Keiser
9 hrs
agree David Hollywood : as David says, my suggestion is almost the same so I would ask Rebecca to regard it as yours :) it was just a wee bit more specific ....
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone! It seems I got lost in the intricasies of Roman land transfer law (priests, witnesses, which characteristics must be specified and which can be glossed over in gentlemen's agreements, etc). Both Karin's and David's answers were truly helpful. "
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hold the seller responsible/liable

:)

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-04-21 03:15:58 GMT)
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just means that any losses will have to be borne by the seller
Peer comment(s):

agree Johanna Timm, PhD
2 hrs
agree David Wright : exactly
4 hrs
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24 mins

to rely on somebody

...could the buyer rely on the seller

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Note added at 13 hrs (2010-04-21 15:56:04 GMT)
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Note to Mr.Wright:
...could the buyer rely on the seller['s moral approach to the deal...?]

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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-04-21 16:04:26 GMT)
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More simple;
Was the seller planning a fraud from the start?
Peer comment(s):

agree Gabriella Bertelmann : agree
2 hrs
thank you Gabriellab
disagree David Wright : Not here. The result wouldn't actually make much sense!
5 hrs
thank you anyway David
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