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Dutch term or phrase:
territoriumdrift
English translation:
hunger for territory
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territoriumdrift
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What is the correct translation of 'territoriumdrift'. The passage reads:
'Er is een enorme territoriumdrift ontstaan. Nieuwe visgronden en grote olie- en gasvelden worden sneller bereikbaar dan gedacht. Een aantal landen voelt zich ineens toch verwant met het Arctische gebied.'
'Er is een enorme territoriumdrift ontstaan. Nieuwe visgronden en grote olie- en gasvelden worden sneller bereikbaar dan gedacht. Een aantal landen voelt zich ineens toch verwant met het Arctische gebied.'
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Barend van Zadelhoff
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hunger for territory
Second, we are unlike Rome, unlike Britain and France and Spain and the other classical empires of modern times, in that we do not hunger for territory.
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a great hunger for territory has grown
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a great hunger for territory has grown
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Henky de Vries
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Dank je wel, Henky.
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Jack den Haan
: Or territorial drive, as Arie suggests (assuming this interpretation is correct, see discussion above).
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Dank je wel, Jack.
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Barbara Backer-Gray (X)
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Dank je wel, Barbara.
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Dr Lofthouse
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Territorial drift
. explained in text
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Arie Uittenbogaard
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Territorial drive
The context seems to suggest that the Dutch word 'drift' has more to do with 'drive (as in vluchtdrift, geestdrift, levensdrift...) than with the English 'drift'.
Example sentence:
Players may or may not be conscious that the originating impulse comes from the territorial drive. (
james127family.org/documents/Level2/.../territorial%20games.doc
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Jack den Haan
: (assuming this interpretation is correct, see discussion above)
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Ron Willems
: yep
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Michael Beijer
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territorial "carve up"
Seems like this might catch the meaning of the provided context, "Er is een enorme territoriumdrift ontstaan. Nieuwe visgronden en grote olie- en gasvelden worden sneller bereikbaar dan gedacht. Een aantal landen voelt zich ineens toch verwant met het Arctische gebied."
Example sentence:
Arctic nations were yesterday accused of paving the way for a polar "carve up" when they signed a deal aimed at resolving territorial disputes.
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Lianne van de Ven
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territoriality
Or territorial attitude.
De territorium'drift' most likely refers to passion. But I'd prefer to avoid it in a more literal translation.
ter·ri·to·ri·al·i·ty
[ter-i-tawr-ee-al-i-tee, -tohr-] Show IPA
–noun
1.
territorial quality, condition, or status.
2.
the behavior of an animal in defining and defending its territory.
3.
attachment to or protection of a territory or domain.
De territorium'drift' most likely refers to passion. But I'd prefer to avoid it in a more literal translation.
ter·ri·to·ri·al·i·ty
[ter-i-tawr-ee-al-i-tee, -tohr-] Show IPA
–noun
1.
territorial quality, condition, or status.
2.
the behavior of an animal in defining and defending its territory.
3.
attachment to or protection of a territory or domain.
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kamilw
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territorial appetite
Just my thought when I read the original sentence. It's used quite often in political contexts.
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turf war
a less literal translation, but as I understand the context there is a bit of a fight going on in this area
Example sentence:
EU report sets up Arctic turf war
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Michael Beijer
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EITHER "territoriality" OR "territorial drift"
I am not certain, but I think that "territoriumdrift" can mean TWO VERY DIFFERENT things: (A) "territoriality; territorialism; territorial attitude; territorial instinct; territorial behaviour" AND: (B) "territorial drift". However, I can't readily discern from the text which of the two the author is talking about. Example sentence of (A): "A behavior pattern in animals consisting of the occupation and defense of a territory." Example sentence of (B): "Typical of such expansions elsewhere in Eastern Africa, that of the Turkana was intricate and multi-faceted, sometimes involving only a rather subtle territoprial drift, but punctuated at frequent intervals by interactions, borrowings, adjustmentsm, conflicts and assimilations. (...)"
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Hmm. I might be completely mistaken here. I always assumed "territorial drift" involved actual drifting (afwijking van de koers). However, it seems that the "drift" in "territorial drift" might ONLY mean "passion, desire, urge, instinct, etc". Can someone please correct me if what I said above is wrong.
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Hmm. I might be completely mistaken here. I always assumed "territorial drift" involved actual drifting (afwijking van de koers). However, it seems that the "drift" in "territorial drift" might ONLY mean "passion, desire, urge, instinct, etc". Can someone please correct me if what I said above is wrong.
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Jack den Haan
: It can mean both, Michael. Please see discussion section above.
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Barend van Zadelhoff
: in connection with people, the Dutch word "territoriumdrift" can be best compared with things like "expansionism" / "territorial drift" would perhaps translate as "verschuiving van territorium" or something, I would have to research this.
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