copia justificativa

English translation: supporting copy

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Spanish term or phrase:copia justificativa
English translation:supporting copy
Entered by: Charles Davis

20:32 Jun 26, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Environment & Ecology / Energy saving tyre subsidy
Spanish term or phrase: copia justificativa
Realizar el descuento de la ayuda correspondiente al vehículo, después de impuestos, siempre en el momento del pago de la factura y entregar a los beneficiarios una copia justificativa de la solicitud de ayuda formulada en su nombre, así como la factura original de los neumáticos incentivables adquiridos donde conste el descuento realizado en concepto de ayuda del Programa.


the above from a text about governmnet subsidy for renewing tyres - what exactly is a copia justificativa?
TIA
Clifford Marcus
Local time: 14:47
supporting copy
Explanation:
"justificativo" means "que sirve para justificar algo Instrumentos justificativos, and "justificar", in this case, means not "justify" but "prove" or "certify" ("Probar algo con razones convincentes, testigos o documentos"; definitions from DRAE). So a "copia justificativa" is a copy of a document that serves to certify something. Often this term is found with a following clause, eg. "copia justificativa de haber hecho el ingreso correspondiente".

In English, the corresponding expression is "supporting copy", just as a "documento justificativo" is a supporting document.

"Applications submitted without a supporting copy of the required Fire Officer Certificate may be considered incomplete."
http://agency.governmentjobs.com/pasadena/job_bulletin.cfm?J...

"(No exemptions will be granted without a supporting copy of your PA return for the appropriate tax filing year."
http://www.palisadessd.org/606390123133457/lib/6063901231334...

"To obtain authorised driver status submit a completed Driver Authorisation Questionnaire, with a supporting copy of your current drivers licence to your department manager."
http://www.kent.ac.uk/finance-staff/services/insurance/motor...

A "copia justificativa" is a copy that certifies something, not a copy that has been certified.

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Note added at 27 mins (2011-06-26 21:00:03 GMT)
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That is to say that a "copia justificativa" is not necessarily a certified copy, though it may be. It could be just a plain photocopy.
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 15:47
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many thanks
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Summary of answers provided
4 +7supporting copy
Charles Davis
4 +2a copy as proof of the submission of the application
Bubo Coroman (X)
4certified copy
Michael Powers (PhD)
4a voucher copy
eski


Discussion entries: 5





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
certified copy


Explanation:
Mike

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Note added at 8 mins (2011-06-26 20:41:02 GMT)
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A "documento justificativo" is a voucher or certificate, but in this specific cas the voucher or certificate is actually a copy that is legally recogized with the force of a voucher, thus it is a "certified copy" of the request for aid ...

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 09:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 81

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ClaraVal
12 mins
  -> Thank you, ClaraVal - Mike

disagree  philgoddard: This is wrong - it doesn't mean certified.
5 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
supporting copy


Explanation:
"justificativo" means "que sirve para justificar algo Instrumentos justificativos, and "justificar", in this case, means not "justify" but "prove" or "certify" ("Probar algo con razones convincentes, testigos o documentos"; definitions from DRAE). So a "copia justificativa" is a copy of a document that serves to certify something. Often this term is found with a following clause, eg. "copia justificativa de haber hecho el ingreso correspondiente".

In English, the corresponding expression is "supporting copy", just as a "documento justificativo" is a supporting document.

"Applications submitted without a supporting copy of the required Fire Officer Certificate may be considered incomplete."
http://agency.governmentjobs.com/pasadena/job_bulletin.cfm?J...

"(No exemptions will be granted without a supporting copy of your PA return for the appropriate tax filing year."
http://www.palisadessd.org/606390123133457/lib/6063901231334...

"To obtain authorised driver status submit a completed Driver Authorisation Questionnaire, with a supporting copy of your current drivers licence to your department manager."
http://www.kent.ac.uk/finance-staff/services/insurance/motor...

A "copia justificativa" is a copy that certifies something, not a copy that has been certified.

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Note added at 27 mins (2011-06-26 21:00:03 GMT)
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That is to say that a "copia justificativa" is not necessarily a certified copy, though it may be. It could be just a plain photocopy.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 15:47
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 96
Grading comment
many thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  lorenab23: Yes, does not mean "certified"
31 mins
  -> Thanks, Lorena. Enjoy what's left of your Sunday :)

agree  James A. Walsh
1 hr
  -> Many thanks, James ;)

agree  David Hollywood: I would go along with this interpretation :)
1 hr
  -> Thanks very much, David :)

agree  philgoddard: You could leave out "supporting".
5 hrs
  -> Hmm... Well, I agree it doesn't really add anything substantive. Many thanks, Phil :)

agree  traductorchile: I hope the translator has charged +50% for the terrible text.
7 hrs
  -> Many thanks, traductor. I agree: the Spanish is horrible :)

agree  FVS (X)
10 hrs
  -> Thanks very much, FVS :)

agree  Cynthia Neme: Good choice
21 hrs
  -> Many thanks, Cynthia :)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
a copy as proof of the submission of the application


Explanation:
your text means "una copia que justifica la solicitud", in other words, a copy which proves that the application was submitted, or "a copy as proof of the submission of the application".

Here is another example of the use of "copia justificativa" where "justificativa" cannot mean anything else but "que justifica":

Indicarle que una vez recibido y registrado el impreso, se le remitirá una ***copia justificativa de recepción*** junto con la chapa identificativa...

una copia justificativa de recepción means "a copy as proof of receipt"
http://www.castello.es/generico.php?cod1=33&cod2=783


Bubo Coroman (X)
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 145

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  moken: Hi Deb. "[...] as proof" is what came to mind here too. :O) :O)
9 hrs
  -> thanks Álvaro, welcome back! - Deb

agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
4 days
  -> thanks so much Muriel, kind regards! - Deborah
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a voucher copy


Explanation:

A voucher copy:

10 Oct 2007 – Planners and buyers at big agencies are normally on voucher copy ... Millions of rand is spent on voucher copy deliveries, use them wisely. ...
www.bizcommunity.com/Forum/196/39/14042.html - Similar
Anzeigenbeleg > specimen copy / voucher copy
27 Oct 2006 – (KudoZ) German to English translation of Anzeigenbeleg: specimen copy / voucher copy [Printing & Publishing (Tech/Engineering)].
www.proz.com › ... › German to English › Printing & Publishing - Cached - Similar
Voucher Copy | fredericiana
26 Feb 2007 – Funny, the German Heise Verlag sent us a voucher copy of the current issue of c't, because it contains a small article about Firefox 3 ...
fredericiana.com/2007/02/26/voucher-copy/
Voucher Copy Shipping (SAP Library - Order)
It is part of voucher copy recipient assignment and is available to you during creation and modification of voucher copy recipient assignments. ...
help.sap.com/saphelp_rc10/helpdata/en/0b/.../content.htm - Cached
Legal Bits
Voucher copies – one voucher copy will be sent, free of charge, together with the invoice unless prior arrangements have been agreed in writing. ...
www.countryside-jobs.com/cjs_stuff/legal_bits.html - Cached

Saludos
eski :))

eski
Mexico
Local time: 07:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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