Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
ungestielten Antennen
English translation:
directly attached antennae
German term
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ungestielten Antennen
Als speziell keltiberische Waffen mit möglicher Vorbildfunktion kommen im späten 3. Jh. v. Chr. entweder Kurzschwerter mit ungestielten Antennen in Betracht oder die sogenannten "Kastilischen Latèneschwerter".
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| 3 | antennae attached directly (to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever) |
goodword (X)
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| 2 | not attached to {or, part of} the tang |
jccantrell
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| 1 | bare hilts with no grips |
Alison Kirkland
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Sep 22, 2011 18:51: Johanna Timm, PhD changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Sep 24, 2011 21:47: Susan Welsh changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/625898">Susan Welsh's</a> old entry - "ungestielten Antennen"" to ""antennae attached directly (to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever)""
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Proposed translations
antennae attached directly (to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever)
'Ungestielt' makes me think of 'sessile' in the botany context, which of course would be completely off tangent here. However, the word 'sessile' prompts me to think along the lines of 'attached directly to'. Antennae attached directly to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever.
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Was nicht ist, kann noch werden.
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not attached to {or, part of} the tang
Sorry, this is just above a guess.
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bare hilts with no grips
"In virtually all Celtic sword finds, the organic (bone, wood, horn, etc.) hilt and grip materials are non-existent."
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Note added at 17 hrs (2011-09-23 11:12:33 GMT)
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When I wrote that, I imagined that "antenna" might refer to the bare rod of the sword's handle. The book you refer to, though, suggests that the "antenna pommel" are the two sticky-out bits on the end of the hilt, which do indeed look like insect antennae. OK, I should have checked that out first.
You wrote "a kind of pommel between the hilt and the blade", which confused me. I'm pretty sure that the pommel is the part on the end of the handle (try a dictionary). I think the crossways piece between the blade and the hilt is called the "guard" or "cross-guard", because it's there to stop an opponent's blade sliding up your sword and finding your hand. (In the pictures of La Tene swords, both ends of the handle (guards and pommel) look the same - same sticky-out bits)
If antennae means the things on the pommel/guard and not the hilt, I suppose it's possible that "ungestielt", means something like "non-extended", non-branching" or "non-curving", although I'm not sure exactly why your text would note this detail. Perhaps the best bet would to look for English-language information on this type of sword.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2011-09-23 11:15:58 GMT)
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I suppose it's possible that "ungestielt", means something like "non-extended", non-branching" or "non-curving"
Or, for that matter, "not thin and/or straight"
| That's useful, but what about the antennae part? |
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http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=bvre&cp=21&gs_id=1j&xh...
If that doesn't work, Google "gestielten antennen"
Almedinilla blades (daggers or swords) are mentioned, which led me here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcata
As you can see, this has a quite different pommel to the La Tene sword.
Also, one definition of antenna pommel is "dagger pommel which curved away from the grip."
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jdcrsCOB-VcC&pg=PA291&lpg...
It's beginning to look like "non-curved antenna pommel" to me.
Click on the page number to open the window to the full page.
Sorry about putting this up as non-PRO. I forgot that I had changed it for one question, and it seems I can't edit it.