Mar 5, 2012 11:01
12 yrs ago
Persian (Farsi) term

جبروت

Persian (Farsi) to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
جبروت نیازمند اراده ای که در برابرش به دلخواه رام شود

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Younes Mostafaei Mar 6, 2012:
ناسوت، ملکوت، جبروت، لاهوت These are four worlds according to Islamic creed. Human can penetrate both with mind and soul to ناسوت (the world in which we are living) and ملکوت. But جبروت and لاهوت are exclusive worlds belonging to God.
As I was considering Chittick's translation of the term I came to realize why he has included Exclusive. A simple deconstruction of his rendering says us that exclusive+ power= جبر+ وت.
A (world) of power which only belongs to God.
Other attributes though similar in nature, do not really capture the concept, because they can be attributed to humans too. While جبروت can not be.
I hope I have clarified ambiguities.
Younes Mostafaei Mar 5, 2012:
glory, might, ..... All of these are general options and should not be applied to جبروت as we have in Islamic belief words like ملکوت، لاهوت، ناسوت and جبروت.
I prefer to include William C. Chittick's translation as he translates:
Beware of vying with God in His tremendousness and likening yourself to Him in His exclusive power.
Here tremendousness stands for عظمت and exclusive power for جبروت.

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might, glory, greatness

it is an arabic term which means "might" (and glory)
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agree Mohammad Mostajaboddavati
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glory

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exclusive power

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grandeur/to be almighty

جبروت means عظمت and بزرگی (grandness); this is its most common sense.

I go for "grandeur" to translate it out of this context. However, it seems unnatural to me to start the sentence in this way: Grandeur requires/entails a willpower that...

Therefore, I'll make a modifcation and translate it as follows:
Being/to be almighty requires a willpower that...
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Almighitiness

Almighitiness
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