May 3, 2012 19:20
12 yrs ago
Russian term

Неквасные патриоты

Russian to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
This is the name of a civil society organisation in Kolomna which does things like improve public spaces, projects which are for the benefit of society. Any ideas?

Many thanks in advance.

Proposed translations

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Gentle/Mild/Moderate/etc Patriots

As opposed to radical/extreme that are квасные.
Peer comment(s):

agree The Misha : My first idea was "quiet" but that's the same thing. You got it.
43 mins
Gracias, amigo. I like "quiet," by the way.
agree MariyaN (X)
1 hr
Thank you.
agree Amy Lesiewicz : My thought was something along the lines of "non-partisan patriots"...
1 hr
I fear that may only be applicable to our neck of the woods. Generally speaking, nationalism isn't restricted to a specific party.
agree NataliaShevchuk : with Misha, "quiet patriots" sounds awesome
8 hrs
No argument from me!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks for this. I went for "The Quiet Patriots" in the end."
4 mins

non-patrioteers

В отличие от "квасных" патриотов - есть в "Мультитране"

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Note added at 9 mins (2012-05-03 19:30:39 GMT)
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The definition of "patrioteer" in the Mirriam-Webster:
Definition of PATRIOTEER

: one who makes an ostentatious show of patriotism from venal or degraded motives : an insincere, misguided, or spurious patriot : flag-waver <they are quick to detect the phony and they can distinguish a patriot from a patrioteer — Dorothy Thompson> <catchword patrioteers — S.V.Benét> <patrioteers, roaring nationalists and reformers with apparently simple devices for making the world better and safer — Stanley Walker>
This civil society wants to stress that they are not patrioteers, but real patriots, acting for the benefit of society.
Peer comment(s):

neutral The Misha : No offense, but I just never heard it used. I mean, it's there, but most hits are definitions of this wonderful new word that no one really uses where it matters.
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Unostentatious patriots

квасной patriotism is usually quite superficial, and often it's more on grandstand and specious side (unlike true patriotism where supporters aim at achieving real tangible results in a quiet way, avoiding ostentations, etc... )

Imho, "Unostentatious Patriots" sounds on a par with "Неквасные патриоты" in style and tone.

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"Patriots for Progress" / non-bigoted patriots

"Patriotism Without Bigotry" would be closer, but I think it doesn't sound too good to put a negative in a definition of a movement – especially a political one: a movement must be defined through what it IS rather through what it isn't. Our good citizens from Kolomna don't seem to be aware of that :)
Peer comment(s):

agree melanya : Not necessarily, Michael, there's a very famous French organization called "Ni putes, ni soumises" where the whole point is to say what women are not. ich stresses
2 hrs
Спасибо ма же не па даккор! “Мы не путаны“ могут говорить только те, кого таковыми или просто считают или так с ними обращаются.Признак слабости! Здесь в Италии,кто говорит“я-не вор“ - точно вор!
agree Nataliia Gorina
1 day 1 hr
thanks, Natalia!
agree Mikhail Korolev
1 day 12 hrs
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non-jingoists

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Just Plain Patriots

That's a non-negative idea for the name of an organization. I agree with Michael about that, though there is the small matter of the original. For a negatively formulated one, I was going to say:

Non-flag-waving Patriots

But I don't think that will fly as the name of a group. In the USA, you could have Non-Redneck Patriots, but... that's not only too culturally specific, but also not very p.c.
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