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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Cochonglier/sanglochon

English translation:

Iron Age pig

    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2012-07-26 15:54:08 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Jul 23, 2012 15:15
11 yrs ago
French term

Cochonglier/sanglochon

French to English Science Zoology appellation d'animaux
Un sanglochon (ou un cochonglier) est un mélange de cochon et de sanglier.

http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/cochonglier

Il ne semblerait pas y avoir d'équivalent anglais. Pigboar?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 Iron Age pig
3 +2 wild boar/domestic pig hybrid
5 iron age pig
Change log

Jul 23, 2012 18:41: Cetacea changed "Field" from "Other" to "Science" , "Field (specific)" from "Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)" to "Zoology"

Discussion

Kate Collyer Jul 23, 2012:
I so wish I could come up with a portmanteau word...
Colin Rowe Jul 23, 2012:
@Kate I was wondering that myself. In fact I found the "Iron Age pig" as a cross reference from the Wiki page about tigons.
Tony M Jul 23, 2012:
@ Kate Yes, and like a mule and a hinny? I did wonder the same thing, but AFAIK, I don't think the distinction is specific — or else the terms are just used rather loosely!
Kate Collyer Jul 23, 2012:
I wonder if there is a distinction between the two terms in French, as there is in English between tigon and liger, i.e. which is the sire and which the dam. No answer, just another question...
Magenta Baribeau (asker) Jul 23, 2012:
I'm looking for a portmanteau word that would do justice to the French term. This "cochonglier" is a mix of wild boar and pig.
Tony M Jul 23, 2012:
Not boar I don't think we can use 'boar', as it simply means the male of a number of piglike breeds. So it would be like saying 'a horse/stallion hybrid'
philgoddard Jul 23, 2012:
I can't find an English equivalent either. Is it possible that we just say pig/boar hybrid?

Proposed translations

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Selected

Iron Age pig

"The Iron Age pig is a hybrid between a wild boar and a domestic pig meant to recreate the type of pig represented by prehistoric art works of the Iron Age. The project started in the early 1980s by crossing a male wild boar with a Tamworth sow to produce an animal that looks like the pig from long ago.[1] Iron Age pigs are generally only raised in Europe for a specialty meat market, and in keeping with their heritage are generally more aggressive and harder to handle than pure domestic pigs.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age_pig
Peer comment(s):
agree rkillings : Or more descriptively, "back-bred pig". Like the attempt to breed cattle back to the aurochs.:)
1 hr
Thanks. I'm still waiting for someone to re-introduce the roc. Nice pair of drumsticks on one of them! // Correction, "roc" appears to be mythical; I was thinking of the elephant bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_bird
agree Tony M : Do note, though, that these have also occurred naturally here in France, where escaped domestic pigs have mated with wild boar; so this term could be too specific for the more general case in France.
1 hr
Whatever you call it, I'm sure Obélix would be happy to try a few :-)
agree SJLD : that gets my oink ;-)
1 hr
Grunt!
agree Cetacea
3 hrs
agree Miranda Joubioux (X)
22 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Colin, this is exactly what I was looking for!"
+2
7 mins

wild boar/domestic pig hybrid

I've not personally come across a dedicated term, but would suggest this as the best way of expressing it, to avoid confusion. I think it is important to keep the 'wild' in there to explain the use of 'boar', and I just feel it reads more smoothly this way round.
Peer comment(s):
neutral rkillings : More mongrel than hybrid, since wild and domestic pigs are essentially a single species, Sus scrofa..
1 hr
Thanks, R, for that clarification! 'cross-breed', then
neutral Kate Collyer : Although this is technically correct, I think Colin's answer is more suitable due to the snappiness. I do however take issue with rkillings. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar and http://urbantitan.com/10-amazing-animal-hybrids/ (no. 10)
3 hrs
Thanks a lot, Kate!
agree Cyril B. : or "wild boar/feral pig hybrid"
11 hrs
Merci, Cyril !
agree Miranda Joubioux (X) : another possibility that could work in certain contexts.
23 hrs
Thanks, Miranda!
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15 hrs

iron age pig

We have no equivalent such as 'pigboar' but the nearest we get is 'iron age pig'. It is quie in order to say 'wild boar/domestic pig hybrid' although this is a little long!

Thes terms can be found on the internet along with descriptions of other hybrids such as on of zebras and horses. They are quite rare which is probably why the boar hybrid has no name.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Cetacea : It's really easy to post an answer with a CL of 5 when somebody else has already posted the same answer (referenced and spelled correctly) 15 hours earlier and 4 others have confirmed it...
41 mins
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