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التبعية

English translation: ethnicity

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Arabic term or phrase:التبعية
English translation:ethnicity
Entered by: Ammar Mahmood

08:00 Aug 4, 2012
Arabic to English translations [PRO]
Law (general) / civil law status
Arabic term or phrase: التبعية
في نموذج قديم للجنسية العراقية: "تبعية الأب الأصلية وجنسيته الحالية"
طبعاً كان لدينا في العراق تصنيف في الجنسية على أساس تبعية الأب والأم: تركية أو إيرانية أو عراقية
Ammar Mahmood
Iraq
Local time: 03:36
ethnicity
Explanation:
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other through a common heritage, consisting of a common culture, including a shared language or dialect. The group's ethos or ideology may also stress common ancestry and religion, as opposed to an ethnic minority group which refers to race. The process that results in the emergence of an ethnicity is called ethnogenesis.

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Note added at 1 day15 hrs (2012-08-05 23:00:56 GMT)
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آNationlaity: القومية
Citizenship: الجنسية
Race: العرق
Ethnicity: التبعية أو الأصل
برجاء مراجعة الروابط التالية:
http://www.tahawolat.com/cms/article.php3?id_article=904
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality

There are two main meanings of the word nationality:

Membership of a nation in the sense of ethnic group (a group of people who share a common ethnic identity, language, culture, descent, history, and so forth). This meaning of nationality is not defined by political borders or passport ownership and includes nations that lack an independent state (such as the Scots, Welsh, English, Basques, Kurds, Tamils, Hmong, Inuit and Māori).
Citizenship of an independent state. Citizenship is determined by jus soli, jus sanguinis, or naturalization, which affords the state jurisdiction over the person and affords the person the protection of the state. The most common distinguishing feature of citizenship is that citizens have the right to participate in the political life of the state, such as by voting or standing for election. The term national can include both citizens and non-citizens. By custom, it is the right of each state to determine who its nationals are. Such determinations are part of nationality law. In some cases, determinations of nationality are also governed by public international law—for example, by treaties on statelessness and the European Convention on Nationality.
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Tamer Mekhimar
Egypt
Local time: 03:36
Grading comment
thank you indeed. you brought in 4 words with thin lines of difference among them
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +4citizenship/nationality
Liliane Hatem
5 +1ethnicity
Tamer Mekhimar
4Dependence
Mohammad Najim (X)


Discussion entries: 13





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
citizenship/nationality


Explanation:
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Note added at 37 mins (2012-08-04 08:38:12 GMT)
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There is the "original nationality" which is the status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.

and the "current/present nationality" which is for Genealogy, it's where you have current citizenship. ... The word "present" meaning in the here and now. not the past. not the future .

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Note added at 39 mins (2012-08-04 08:39:53 GMT)
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the "present/current nationality" is for Genealogy, where you have current citizenship. ... The word "present" meaning in the here and now. not the past. not the future .

the "original nationality" is the status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.

Liliane Hatem
Lebanon
Local time: 03:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 326

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Firas Allouzi: Totally agree with Liliane. See Faruqi's dictionary.
1 hr
  -> Thank you Firas:)
agree  Mohammad Najim (X): Good Liliane. But why not to try "dependence"? Is it more accurate?
1 hr
  -> Thank you mohammad:) Dependence has a different meaning:)
agree  Khalid W
8 hrs
  -> Thank you Walid:)
disagree  Tamer Mekhimar: Citizenship denotes the link between a person and a state or an association of states. thefreedictionary: the condition or status of a citizen, with its rights and duties | it's not about your ethnic group Arab, Kurdish, Iranian, etc.
21 hrs
  -> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/citizen - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/citizenship. Your comment should be addressed to albermanil not to me??????
agree  Ahmed Badawy: Totally Right!
1 day 2 hrs
  -> Thank you Ahmed:)
agree  sktrans
2 days 16 hrs
  -> Thank you Sktrans:)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Dependence


Explanation:
Dependence

Mohammad Najim (X)
Palestine
Local time: 03:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: Arabic
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51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
ethnicity


Explanation:
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other through a common heritage, consisting of a common culture, including a shared language or dialect. The group's ethos or ideology may also stress common ancestry and religion, as opposed to an ethnic minority group which refers to race. The process that results in the emergence of an ethnicity is called ethnogenesis.

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Note added at 1 day15 hrs (2012-08-05 23:00:56 GMT)
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آNationlaity: القومية
Citizenship: الجنسية
Race: العرق
Ethnicity: التبعية أو الأصل
برجاء مراجعة الروابط التالية:
http://www.tahawolat.com/cms/article.php3?id_article=904
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality

There are two main meanings of the word nationality:

Membership of a nation in the sense of ethnic group (a group of people who share a common ethnic identity, language, culture, descent, history, and so forth). This meaning of nationality is not defined by political borders or passport ownership and includes nations that lack an independent state (such as the Scots, Welsh, English, Basques, Kurds, Tamils, Hmong, Inuit and Māori).
Citizenship of an independent state. Citizenship is determined by jus soli, jus sanguinis, or naturalization, which affords the state jurisdiction over the person and affords the person the protection of the state. The most common distinguishing feature of citizenship is that citizens have the right to participate in the political life of the state, such as by voting or standing for election. The term national can include both citizens and non-citizens. By custom, it is the right of each state to determine who its nationals are. Such determinations are part of nationality law. In some cases, determinations of nationality are also governed by public international law—for example, by treaties on statelessness and the European Convention on Nationality.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group
Tamer Mekhimar
Egypt
Local time: 03:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 132
Grading comment
thank you indeed. you brought in 4 words with thin lines of difference among them

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Linda Al-Bairmani: Iraqi context it should be ethnicity.
12 hrs
  -> Thanks!
disagree  Liliane Hatem: There is no mentioning of ethnicity! I have read the asker's comment prior to answering the question and I know ethnicity's definition. See Da'd Kan'an comment.
13 hrs
  -> Please try to read the comment given by the asker and the definition of ethnicity. The asker mentioned there are two fields for الجنسية & التبعية. If that was your translation for التبعية, how about الجنسية? Simply, التبعية is العرق or أصول الشخص.
agree  TargamaT team
17 hrs
  -> Thanks
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