Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Aug 25, 2012 11:41
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
riña
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
I am looking for a translation for this term with the following meaning (taken from RAE):
"1. f. Der. riña en que se acometen varias personas confusa y mutuamente de modo que no cabe distinguir los actos de cada una."
Context: "En caso de necesidad (riñas, alteración de orden público u otros problemas) la Comunidad de Propietarios podrá decidir el cierre temporal del Centro".
At the moment I have translated this term with "dispute", but I am wondering whether a more specific legal term exists...
Thanks in advance for your help!
"1. f. Der. riña en que se acometen varias personas confusa y mutuamente de modo que no cabe distinguir los actos de cada una."
Context: "En caso de necesidad (riñas, alteración de orden público u otros problemas) la Comunidad de Propietarios podrá decidir el cierre temporal del Centro".
At the moment I have translated this term with "dispute", but I am wondering whether a more specific legal term exists...
Thanks in advance for your help!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | altercation |
Didier Decle (X)
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| 4 +5 | brawl |
Lydia De Jorge
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| 3 +1 | affray |
Denise Phelps
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| 4 | scuffle |
Beatriz Zorron-Minhondo
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| 4 | riot |
Alicia Orfalian
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| 4 | dispute / conflict |
Ellen Kraus
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| 3 | quarrel |
Helena Chavarria
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Proposed translations
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altercation
How about altercation (a noisy argument, one in which it is hard to distinguish who said what exactly)?
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Jessica Noyes
: I like this in the legal context requested by the asker.
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Thanks Jessica!
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Comment: "Thanks to everyone for a wealth of great translation options. This is the one that best suited my text :)"
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Lydia De Jorge
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Don't just say it, say it right!
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, English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
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297
brawl
per discription
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patinba
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Saludos!
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Henry Hinds
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Gracias, HH! Saludos.
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Carl Stoll
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Thanks!
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anademahomar
12 hrs
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Gracias y saludos!
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James A. Walsh
21 hrs
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Saludos, James!
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Denise Phelps
Native in English
Traducción de trabajos académicos
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English
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4
affray
"A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and the person's conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety.
Where two or more persons use or threaten the unlawful violence, it is the conduct of them taken together that must be considered for the purpose of subsection (1)
For the purposes of this section a threat cannot be made by the use of words alone.
No person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or be likely to be, present at the scene.
Affray may be committed in private as well as in public places." (Public Order Act 1986, England and Wales).
Hope this helps.
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"Violent disorder" would be the other possibility, depending on your context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1986
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affray
Where two or more persons use or threaten the unlawful violence, it is the conduct of them taken together that must be considered for the purpose of subsection (1)
For the purposes of this section a threat cannot be made by the use of words alone.
No person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or be likely to be, present at the scene.
Affray may be committed in private as well as in public places." (Public Order Act 1986, England and Wales).
Hope this helps.
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"Violent disorder" would be the other possibility, depending on your context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1986
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affray
4 hrs
Beatriz Zorron-Minhondo
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Public Translator. Law and Business
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
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scuffle
Scuffle: a short fith that is not very violent. (Longman Dictionary)
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Sorry, fight.
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Sorry, fight.
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Alicia Orfalian
Argentina
Argentina
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Works in field
Argentina
Finance, Health Care & HR Pro
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
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71
riot
Please see 2 a from Merriam Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/riot)
1ri·ot
noun \ˈrī-ət\
Definition of RIOT
1
archaic a : profligate behavior : debauchery b : unrestrained revelry c : noise, uproar, or disturbance made by revelers
2
a : public violence, tumult, or disorder b : a violent public disorder; specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent
It means disturbio, tumulto, etc., widely used in insurance, for instance. I think it might work here too.
1ri·ot
noun \ˈrī-ət\
Definition of RIOT
1
archaic a : profligate behavior : debauchery b : unrestrained revelry c : noise, uproar, or disturbance made by revelers
2
a : public violence, tumult, or disorder b : a violent public disorder; specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent
It means disturbio, tumulto, etc., widely used in insurance, for instance. I think it might work here too.
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Helena Chavarria
Spain
Spain
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Works in field
Spain
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quarrel
Another option.
http://blog.koldcast.tv/2011/koldcast-news/8-ridiculous-neig...
http://www.aaron.ca/columns/2004-09-04.htm
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Description
The unusual dispute became public on Tuesday, 3 October 2002, following a very distressful and almost chaotic weekend for the quarrelling neighbours. The police were called in 11 times between Friday and Sunday to pacify the agitated neighbours.
http://infopedia.nl.sg/articles/SIP_441_2005-02-02.html
http://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#hl=en&q=quarre...
http://blog.koldcast.tv/2011/koldcast-news/8-ridiculous-neig...
http://www.aaron.ca/columns/2004-09-04.htm
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Description
The unusual dispute became public on Tuesday, 3 October 2002, following a very distressful and almost chaotic weekend for the quarrelling neighbours. The police were called in 11 times between Friday and Sunday to pacify the agitated neighbours.
http://infopedia.nl.sg/articles/SIP_441_2005-02-02.html
http://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#hl=en&q=quarre...
1 day 1 hr
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
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dispute / conflict
better suited for juridical texts
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