Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
una tela de encaje
English translation:
(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace
Added to glossary by
peter jackson
Dec 5, 2012 06:10
11 yrs ago
Spanish term
Spain
una tela de encaje
Spanish to English
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Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
En boca es como una tela de encaje perfectamente equilibrada, los taninos están fundidos, son muy flexibles al haberlo criado en barrica
I have been coming back to thsi phrase for 24 hours and am still stuck. At the moment I have "the complexity on the mouth is ....", which has plenty of hits but I'm just wondering if there is anything closer to the rather odd original.
Thanks in advance.
I have been coming back to thsi phrase for 24 hours and am still stuck. At the moment I have "the complexity on the mouth is ....", which has plenty of hits but I'm just wondering if there is anything closer to the rather odd original.
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace
I often feel that tasting notes are a fertile field for wannabe poets. Sounding OTT is not a problem, but there are limits to the acceptable level of weirdness.
I feel here that (a) "perfectly balanced", being a standard term, should go in as is, if at all possible, and (b) the lace metaphor should be preserved if possible, rather than watered down.
I'd separate the balance from the lace; that connection doesn't make much sense to me. Lace is not the first comparison you'd choose to express balance. But lace is beautiful and intricate, and the latter is the key here to my mind. By all means keep "complexity" if you'd prefer (and that's a favourite term in tasting notes), but "intricacy" does the same job, I feel, and fits better with lace. I'd throw in "fine", just because it sounds better to me, and dispense with "tela", which adds nothing.
So that's what I've ended up with. Personally, I could imagine an English-speaking wine buff saying it.
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As an afterthought, lace is delicate as well as intricate, and you could perhaps say "with the intricate delicacy of fine lace", or even just"with an intricate delicacy", and not mention the lace at all. I like the "woven/weave" idea, but it's not easy to fit it into the whole phrase.
I feel here that (a) "perfectly balanced", being a standard term, should go in as is, if at all possible, and (b) the lace metaphor should be preserved if possible, rather than watered down.
I'd separate the balance from the lace; that connection doesn't make much sense to me. Lace is not the first comparison you'd choose to express balance. But lace is beautiful and intricate, and the latter is the key here to my mind. By all means keep "complexity" if you'd prefer (and that's a favourite term in tasting notes), but "intricacy" does the same job, I feel, and fits better with lace. I'd throw in "fine", just because it sounds better to me, and dispense with "tela", which adds nothing.
So that's what I've ended up with. Personally, I could imagine an English-speaking wine buff saying it.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2012-12-05 12:54:41 GMT)
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As an afterthought, lace is delicate as well as intricate, and you could perhaps say "with the intricate delicacy of fine lace", or even just"with an intricate delicacy", and not mention the lace at all. I like the "woven/weave" idea, but it's not easy to fit it into the whole phrase.
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Comment: "I used delicacy. many thanks, as always."
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Magali Bramon
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a lace material
I would translate it as it is in Spanish, to keep the source oddity... i. e.
the complexity on the mouth is like a lace material perfectly balanced...
What do you think?
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Note added at 31 mins (2012-12-05 06:42:34 GMT)
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or
the complexity on the mouth is like a perfectly balanced lace fabric...
the complexity on the mouth is like a lace material perfectly balanced...
What do you think?
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Note added at 31 mins (2012-12-05 06:42:34 GMT)
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the complexity on the mouth is like a perfectly balanced lace fabric...
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the (elements) are woven together perfectly/there is a perfect weave of...
Hope it hepls
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Carol Gullidge
: intricate weave (the perfectamente belongs to equilibrada) :"This wine layers flavor in a refreshing, intricate weave of cinnamon, coffee, caramel & cedar on the palate" ... www.betthefarmny.com/store.html
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(it/the wine) is perfectly balanced on the palate
Another option.
Peer comment(s):
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Carol Gullidge
: Hi Jenni: this captures all the surrounding terms but not the one that is being asked!
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My suggestion was not to go over the top in English. Charles has it, but lace in the mouth sounds a bit off-putting in English.
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finely layered (on the palate)
"tela de encaje" sounds to me like "finely layered" in this context.
There are numerous references to "finely layered" wines. Hope you find it useful.
Accindo Fine Wines | Wine
www.accindofinewines.com/wine
The tobacco oak flavours enhance the palate to give a full bodied, complex dry red ..... the 2002 is tightly wound on the nose and finely layered on the palate ...
Wine tasting descriptors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_tasting_descriptors
Aftertaste : The taste left on the palate after wine has been swallowed. ... Complex : A wine that gives a perception of being multi-layered in terms of flavors and ...
Jacques Pépin Recipes and White Wines for the - Wine Spectator
static.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/46140
9 Dec 2011 – A finely layered wine in a light-bodied, fresh and accessible package. Drink now through 2020. 3,000 cases made.—A.N.. CHATEAU STE.
The Sorting Table, LLC - The Next Generation in Fine Wine ...
www.thesortingtable.com/V3/brand.php?pageId=10...1...
A finely layered wine, subtly weaving in the powerful acidity, while the smoke note gains intensity toward the stony, mineral-driven finish. A lot of power partnered ...
Flying Horse Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
www.tastingroom.com/.../Flying-Horse-Napa-Val... - United States
This Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon is a finely layered wine exhibiting black cherry, black currant, raspberry, truffle, smoke and leather. There is a hint of floral, ...
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"finely layered texture/flavor, etc."
There are numerous references to "finely layered" wines. Hope you find it useful.
Accindo Fine Wines | Wine
www.accindofinewines.com/wine
The tobacco oak flavours enhance the palate to give a full bodied, complex dry red ..... the 2002 is tightly wound on the nose and finely layered on the palate ...
Wine tasting descriptors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_tasting_descriptors
Aftertaste : The taste left on the palate after wine has been swallowed. ... Complex : A wine that gives a perception of being multi-layered in terms of flavors and ...
Jacques Pépin Recipes and White Wines for the - Wine Spectator
static.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/46140
9 Dec 2011 – A finely layered wine in a light-bodied, fresh and accessible package. Drink now through 2020. 3,000 cases made.—A.N.. CHATEAU STE.
The Sorting Table, LLC - The Next Generation in Fine Wine ...
www.thesortingtable.com/V3/brand.php?pageId=10...1...
A finely layered wine, subtly weaving in the powerful acidity, while the smoke note gains intensity toward the stony, mineral-driven finish. A lot of power partnered ...
Flying Horse Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
www.tastingroom.com/.../Flying-Horse-Napa-Val... - United States
This Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon is a finely layered wine exhibiting black cherry, black currant, raspberry, truffle, smoke and leather. There is a hint of floral, ...
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"finely layered texture/flavor, etc."
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