Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
entradas
English translation:
widow\'s peak
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Angel Biojo
Feb 10, 2013 04:20
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Spanish term
entradas
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El tenía unos 28 años de edad, su estatura no era sobresaliente,
de cabello negro liso y con dos entradas en la frente,
algo calvo y delgado, y se identificaba con su apellido.
de cabello negro liso y con dos entradas en la frente,
algo calvo y delgado, y se identificaba con su apellido.
Proposed translations
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4 +5 | widow's peak | Yvonne Gallagher |
4 +3 | receding hairline | Isamar |
4 +2 | hair receding from each side | Ray Ables |
Proposed translations
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widow's peak
agree with Carol (who should have posted as answer) that this is what it's called in English. See pics here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow's_peak
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/pau...
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As Lisa points out, "widower's peak" would be the correct term since it is a man in this context
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hmm, out of curiousity I Googled and
"widower's peak" only gets 1,140 ghits
whereas "widow's peak" gets 312, 000!
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could I point out that "entradas" is plural and relates to the hair receding at BOTH temples so this is quite simply called a widow's peak" in English. Some people are born with this, (i.e not balding as such but with a hairline that is receded on either side of a central "peak") while others develop it as they get older and/or it gets more "pronounced" as Noni has said.
"a receding hairline" however, is far more general and does not necessarily have "entradas" as it could be receding in a STRAIGHT line across the top or sides
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glad to have helped. Ray posted some interesting information as well regarding the etymology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow's_peak
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/pau...
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As Lisa points out, "widower's peak" would be the correct term since it is a man in this context
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hmm, out of curiousity I Googled and
"widower's peak" only gets 1,140 ghits
whereas "widow's peak" gets 312, 000!
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could I point out that "entradas" is plural and relates to the hair receding at BOTH temples so this is quite simply called a widow's peak" in English. Some people are born with this, (i.e not balding as such but with a hairline that is receded on either side of a central "peak") while others develop it as they get older and/or it gets more "pronounced" as Noni has said.
"a receding hairline" however, is far more general and does not necessarily have "entradas" as it could be receding in a STRAIGHT line across the top or sides
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glad to have helped. Ray posted some interesting information as well regarding the etymology
Peer comment(s):
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Richard Hill
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Thanks Rich!
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Lisa McCarthy
: Or more correctly 'widower's peak'.
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thanks Lisa:-) From ghits it seems it's far more common to use "widow's " for both sexes
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Noni Gilbert Riley
: Note the strong collocation of "pronounced" with "widow's peak" and google it - you'll see how many chaps have widow's peaks!!
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Thanks Noni! Yep, can't even do a comb-over for this! I'm quite amazed at how many women have it (even Marilyn!)
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Carol Gullidge
: can't very well disagree with this :) However, I don't agree with widower's peak - even though it does sound odd when talking about men. But then, I suppose it's equivalent to talking about "male-pattern baldness" in women
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Thanks Carol. Yep, I agree that "widow's peak" is heard more often, even for men
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Ururod (X)
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Many thanks Ururod!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thans to you and Carol, who proposed that answer first."
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hair receding from each side
Don't know how else to say it
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of the forehead
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or: receding hairline on each side of his forehead
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of the forehead
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or: receding hairline on each side of his forehead
Peer comment(s):
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Billh
: hair receding at the temples is the phrase you are looking for
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The temples are further down on most people's heads. Feel free to suggest it as an answer if you'd like.
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Carol Gullidge
: what you're describing is called a "widow's peak" in English. See Reference entry/ No, it's also the name for that particular hairline on men. See the Wiki site, where it clearly applies to both men and women - strange though it may sound!
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Jessie LN
: ^ To Carol: I don't think men with receding hair gain a widow's peak.
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Gracias. Yes, exactly.
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receding hairline
with a receding hairline....is probably the way to say it
Reference:
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Cristina Gonzalez
: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001177.htm
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Thanks Cristina! Yes, it's that M shape that seems to be what the asker was not sure about. By the way, I've heard nothing about the escofia/escocia confusion.....
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Cecilia Barraza-Mukherjee
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Thanks Cecilia!
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Lisa McCarthy
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Thanks Lisa. Hope you've had a good weekend!
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Reference comments
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Reference:
http://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/widows-peak-warning-of-hair-loss-in-men/
... Sometimes a widow’s peak is simply the pattern of a man’s natural hair growth, but if it becomes severely prominent or further receding is accompanied by thinning hair, it often means more hair loss is looming....
... This frontal hair loss, with a distinctive V-shaped hairline, is possibly the most stubborn area of hair loss to deal with. ...
etc, etc
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Sorry, this doesn't make it clear that we call this a widow's peak in English
... This frontal hair loss, with a distinctive V-shaped hairline, is possibly the most stubborn area of hair loss to deal with. ...
etc, etc
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Sorry, this doesn't make it clear that we call this a widow's peak in English
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Yvonne Gallagher
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many thanks gallagy2
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Lisa McCarthy
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many thanks Lisa
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Noni Gilbert Riley
: And if it's pronounced then it's probably increasing!
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many thanks Noni. Yes, if it's growing more pronounced!
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Reference:
Widower's peak / receding hairline
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Carol Gullidge
: except that site calls it a widow's peak (not widower's peak). It's the same site as the one I posted!
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Oooh sorry Carol, didn't see your ref was the same! It does mention 'widower's peak' for a man though (3rd line from top)
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Discussion
Though it’s explicitly female, these days men are at least as often described as having widow’s peaks (widower’s peak is known but is rare), as the receding hairline of a balding man often leaves a central protruding peak. The term frequently turns up in books about genetics, because the hair shape is a classic example of a dominant inherited trait.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-wid3.htm
A book with the title Current Superstitions, published in 1896, recorded that in Labrador it was believed that if a girl’s lock were cut before marriage, she would be a widow.
Many writers have traced the widow’s peak superstition to old conventions about the clothing appropriate to a mourning widow, the traditional widow’s weeds. (Weed was a millennium ago a standard word for an item of clothing; only in the sixteenth century did it become restricted to mourning clothes, and in particular to those of a widow.) It is said that part of the widow’s costume at the time was a hood (perhaps a version of the bycoket, worn by both men and women) with a pointed crest at the front that resembled the widow’s peak. We have to presume that, through a kind of sympathetic magic, a woman who had that shape at the front of her hair was believed to be destined to wear widow’s weeds.
The term widow’s lock is recorded from about 1540 but widow’s peak only arrives in the eighteenth century, in an entry in Nathan Bailey’s Universal Etymological English Dictionary of 1721. He equates it with the bandor
There has been a widespread superstition — I’ve found it recorded in Britain, Ireland and North America, and it was probably at one time a common belief throughout the English-speaking world — that a woman with this shape of forehead hair is destined to outlive her husband.
Some writers argue the superstition actually refers to another hair feature, the widow’s lock. G F Northall recorded in his Warwickshire Word-book in 1895 that it was “a small lock or fringe growing apart from the hair above the forehead”; he added, “Credulous persons believe that a girl so distinguished will become a widow soon after marriage.” Another version of the belief was recorded in Notes and Queries on 7 May 1853, which reproduced the report of a jury, dated 4 July 1692, on the physical examination of several women who were accused of witchcraft in Ipswich, Suffolk:
Upon searching the body of Widow Hoer, nothing appeared on her unnaturall, only her body verry much scratched, and on her head a strange lock of haire, verry long, and differing in color from the rest on her head, and matted or tangled...
Notable people with widow's peaks include Paul Ryan,[16][17] Ronald Reagan,[17] Andrew Jackson.[17]
as well as fictional characters such as Count Dracula, Eddie Munster ...
There are special reasons behind the etymology of "widow's peak", which don't include widowers! So it's the same expression for both men and women. I have never, ever heard of a widower's peak - which would make no sense given the etymology, regardless of the gender of the person with this type of hairline!
Yes, I agree it sounds really odd, but apparently that is just what it IS called! Try googling it, or going to the Reference link I provided - which is a site for men with receding hairlines of all types, not just the widow's peak variety!