Feb 20, 2013 20:47
11 yrs ago
3 viewers *
German term

Entwerfen / Darstellung

German to English Science Architecture Modul eines Studienganges
Liebe Kollegen,
bei den Studienleistungen im Zeugnis für einen B.A. im Fachbereich Architektur heißt es bei den Modulen einmal:
"Entwerfen" (1, 2, 3, ...; Inhalte: Grundlagen des Entwerfens, Entwurf mit Vertiefung im Innenausbau, Baukonstruktion, etc.), ein weiteres Modul heißt
"Gestaltung" (1, 2, 3; Inhalte: Gestaltungslehre 1, 2 und 3).

Gestaltungslehre wird von der FH in der Überschrift beschrieben als "räumlich-plastisches Gestalten".

Ich bin mir schlicht und ergreifend nicht sicher, ob beides mit "Designing" übersetzt werden kann oder ob die Unterschiede, soweit vorhanden, durch verschiedene Übersetzungen deutlich gemacht werden können.

Hat jemand eine Idee...?

In jedem Fall sage ich schon einmal besten Dank und wünsche allen noch einen schönen Abend!

Discussion

freekfluweel Feb 21, 2013:
difference: "ontwerpen" and "vormgeven" (Dutch) in German: "Entwerfen" and "Gestaltung". "Entwerfen" is dealing with the schedule of requirements and "Gestaltung" is just a part of this design process, namely the aesthetic part of it.

Because the English language has/uses only one word for both terms: "design", I would go: Entwerfen = technical design and Gestaltung = artistic design (the outcome of what the technical design has dictated).

Or maybe "architectural programming/design" would work as well:
http://www.wbdg.org/design/dd_archprogramming.php
Marion Schick (asker) Feb 21, 2013:
Thanks to all of you and sorry!!! Obviously I mixed something up ... Of course, all three terms, "Entwerfen", "Darstellung" and "Gestalten" are modules named in this certificate.
However, the German term or phrase in the headline should be "Entwerfen / Gestaltung", not "Entwerfen / Darstellung" ...
Sorry for this confusion...
BrigitteHilgner Feb 21, 2013:
Ein Blick auf die Website der FH könnte ... sich lohnen - dort findet man häufig nicht nur Erklärungen einzelner Kurse sondern auch die englischen Begriffe, welche die FH selbst dafür verwendet (nein, die sind nicht immer sinnvoll gewählt).
Marion Schick (asker) Feb 21, 2013:
Dear philgoddard,
"Darstellung" as well as "Entwerfen" are names of modules listed in the certificate (bachelor degree programme “Architecture and Interior Architecture”). But obviously I mixed something up here; please, if you like, take a look at my latest discussion entry. Sorry!
Best regards, Marion
philgoddard Feb 20, 2013:
Where does it say Darstellung?
Lancashireman Feb 20, 2013:
Design The German language has a plethora of words that translate as 'design'. So when they cheerfully throw 'Design' into the mix as if it were a German word, the translator soon reaches the limits of of his/her resources.
To answer your specific query, however, 'designing' (gerund) is not a viable option.
freekfluweel Feb 20, 2013:
design/composition - aesthetics It's pretty hard to come up with one solution for this matter. It depends on the curriculum. I'd say that design is taking into account the technical, interhuman and the basic "story behind the architecture" principles.

"räumlich-plastisches Gestalten" would be the aesthatic part of the design process...

Proposed translations

12 hrs
Selected

technical design / artistic design

or perhaps: architectural programming/design

see discussion area and comment by ChML
Something went wrong...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to freekfluweel and to all of you for this lively discussion and for spending your time! Best regards, Marion"
+1
9 hrs

design / presentation

Is what I would probably choose.
Peer comment(s):

neutral freekfluweel : Not so sure an architect would use "presentation" in the given context. I wouldn't...//@Tecton: that's the Anglo-Sax term. valid for A-S arch Edu. I've taught arch. to UK-US students and their appr to the arch. process is way diff. from the Mainland appr
2 hrs
Your solution in the comments seems ideal to me!
agree Chris Foster : Presentation covers all means used to explain a design proposal (graphic, virtual and models)
12 hrs
Something went wrong...
4 days

Design and composition

Seems to me the differences in meaning are matched by the German explanations in the original. In addition, these terms seem to go hand in hand in architecture studies.
Something went wrong...
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search