Glossary entry

Swedish term or phrase:

affärsmässig samhällsnytta

English translation:

public services on a commercial basis

Added to glossary by Charlesp
Apr 11, 2013 13:00
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Swedish term

affärsmässig samhällsnytta

Swedish to English Bus/Financial Government / Politics
Here is the heading:

"Affärsmässig samhällsnytta – i samhällets tjänst, för det allmänna bästa."

I think that gives the context for affärsmässig samhällsnytta.

And here is the general definition:

"Alla verksamheter som tillhandahåller samhällsnyttiga tjänster drivs så att långsiktig ekonomisk stabilitet säkras."

Discussion

Charlesp (asker) Apr 16, 2013:
Lot's of good sugestions! And reasonable alternatives, depending upon the context!
George Hopkins Apr 12, 2013:
Question and answer, word-by-word What could be better than: Businesslike, correct, efficient, matter-of-fact, methodical, orderly, organized, practical, proffessional, regular, routine, systematic, thorough, well-ordered, workaday public benefit? Neither right nor left spin.
Sven Petersson Apr 12, 2013:
@ George Hopkins, Response: Your proffered translation is indeed "word-by-word" a perfect translation, but the message implicit in the source expression is given such a violent right spin that the meaning of the concept "affärsmässig samhällsnytta" is totally lost.
George Hopkins Apr 12, 2013:
Businesslike One Answerer regards my contribution as too much right spin. Not so.
Synonyms for businesslike acc. to Collins are: correct, efficient, matter-of-fact, methodical, orderly, organized, practical, proffessional, regular, routine, systematic, thorough, well-ordered, workaday. Take your pick.
Deane Goltermann Apr 11, 2013:
George, having seen such texts from both the business and municpal angles (policy 'disussions'), this simply struck a familiar chord. I've also seen 'affärsmässig' translatrated as 'commerical' or 'commercial basis', tho businesslike works in many contexts, too. Like I say, context is everything!

Proposed translations

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public services on a commercial basis

I see this as referring to the 'New Swedish Model' (referenced in the Economist, and others) where publically financed welfare services are provided through public procurement in open competition between private companies and publically owned operations. The public services are put up for tender, but publically owned operations compete for these contracts with private companies. I have done a few articles on this recently, though have not come across your term exactly. Is this your context?

I'd therefore not really agree with the two answers here, though they might fit other contexts ... see my example sentence below. This sounds like municipal propaganda highlighting their publically owned operations competing with private wannabes, er, companies. Can send you an article I did recently if you like.

Provision of public services in open competition (LOV).

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But, as always, context ...
Example sentence:

"All operations providing public (welfare) services are run to ensure long-term financial stability."

Note from asker:
Thanks Deane. That is pretty much what I came up with. (But thanks for the reference material and background). And yea, I think you hit it exactly with your comment (about municipal propaganda).
Peer comment(s):

disagree George Hopkins : Your comments and thoughts may be interesting but the question does not refer to commercial activity.
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I did read alot into the ques. -- guessing at the context. But, see my comment! ;-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I suppose there are a number of reasonable alternatives, depending upon context. Sven makes a good point (and good contribution) with the suggestion "profit-driven social services" -- however I don't think the municipal authorities would want to refer to it that way."
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A socially-beneficial business

I would probably reverse it and have something along these lines:

"A socially-beneficial business - serving society for the benefit of everyone" ...

... or a derivative thereof.
Peer comment(s):

agree Helen Johnson
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profit-driven social services

Calling a spade a spade.

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Comment to "Nice call Mr. Petersson. But I am not so sure the municipal authorities would like to have it referred to in that manner.":

Politicians with their snout in the trough would definitively not like it. They would much prefer spin doctor terms, as proffered by my esteemed colleagues.

Note from asker:
Nice call Mr. Petersson. But I am not so sure the municipal authorities would like to have it referred to in that manner.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Mats Wiman : samhällsnytta is much broader than social services
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business-driven public good

Or alternatively "business-driven public welfare."
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businesslike public benefit

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The true meaning of "businesslike" is clearly stated in En-Sv Affärsekonomiskt lexicon, Prismas stora ordbok, Fackordbok Gullberg.
Note that they do not refer to such things as profit or any political leaning. I cannot read the Asker's mind and therefore refer to standard dictionaries where possible.
Peer comment(s):

agree Thomas Johansson : "public benefit on a businesslike basis" - would seem to fit with the content at http://www.kfs.net/Om-KFS/Samhallsnara-foretag1/KFS-definiti... (which is not about commercial activities specifically)
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Thanks Thomas.
disagree Sven Petersson : Far too much right spin.
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No spin at all; right, left or centre. Synonyms for businesslike acc. to Collins are correct, efficient, matter-of-fact, methodical, orderly, organized, practical, proffessional, regular, routine, systematic, thorough, well-ordered, workaday.
agree Mats Wiman : Public good/benefit with businesslike methods is what is meant IMHO
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commercial public services

As if there weren't enough suggestions already!

"Public services should not be mixed up with public sectors. If they are indeed also activities which are supervised by public authorities because of their specificities, they can be managed by private companies. In other words, the management can be public or private. When the activity is managed by a private company, it is often called “delegation of public services”. It can take various contractual forms linking private companies with public authorities: dealership, leasing, public-private partnership (PPP). American public utilities are a standard model of a regulated private management, long remained in monopoly, of ***commercial public services***. The notion of universal service has emerged from this model. This notion is nowadays used in Europe, which imposes formalised public missions to private companies (to guarantee universal access to services considered as essential for individuals and the collectivity). This model is different from the public monopoly which characterised the heart of the so-called “French model” of public services after WWII."
Peer comment(s):

neutral George Hopkins : Commercial smacks of profit making, not always appreciated in connection with public services. Common sense tells us that an enterprise either makes or looses money (and becomes bankrupt) but for some loony reason profit is a no-go word for some people.
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I would rather call it securing long-term financial security. These companies (public or private) operate under the Swedish Companies Act and are more or less obliged to act commercially.
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