Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
逻辑关系和理解?
Chinese translation:
并以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施
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David Lin
May 10, 2014 12:19
10 yrs ago
English term
逻辑关系和理解?
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Law (general)
经济法论文
Requiring the state not to enact such laws, and bringing the offending measures by the state under the wing of antitrust (if only to void or disapply the measures) is a wise option.
要求国家不得制定这类法律,并不要以反垄断之名推出令人不快的措施(除非是为了取消或不适用这些措施),则是明智之举。
要求国家不得制定这类法律,并不要以反垄断之名推出令人不快的措施(除非是为了取消或不适用这些措施),则是明智之举。
Proposed translations
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5 | 并以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施 | David Lin |
5 | FYI | jyuan_us |
4 | (the point is "bring...under the wing") | jarv95888 |
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May 11, 2014 17:00: David Lin Created KOG entry
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并以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施
理解得差不多,但是其中 bringing the offending measures by the state under the wing of antitrust 应该是:
并以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施
offending measures = 控制违规
我的理解是只用反垄断的措施来控制违规就足够,无须制定一些其他法律。
供参考。
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直觉你将 bring ... under one's wings 翻的很不错,但是基于 jarv95888 和 jyuan 的意见,再仔细看看,《牛津英汉字典》的解释是 to take care of / guide / help somebody 呵护、庇护 (犹如母鸡呵护、保护小鸡一样) 所以应该不能理解为 ‘放在什么范围或归入范畴之内’ 的含义。
你用 ‘以反垄断之名推出’ ,个人认为可以说是完美的中文表达,有用其他名目来提供保护,加以引导推出,令社会大众更容易接受的含义。
并以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施
offending measures = 控制违规
我的理解是只用反垄断的措施来控制违规就足够,无须制定一些其他法律。
供参考。
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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2014-05-11 16:40:47 GMT)
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直觉你将 bring ... under one's wings 翻的很不错,但是基于 jarv95888 和 jyuan 的意见,再仔细看看,《牛津英汉字典》的解释是 to take care of / guide / help somebody 呵护、庇护 (犹如母鸡呵护、保护小鸡一样) 所以应该不能理解为 ‘放在什么范围或归入范畴之内’ 的含义。
你用 ‘以反垄断之名推出’ ,个人认为可以说是完美的中文表达,有用其他名目来提供保护,加以引导推出,令社会大众更容易接受的含义。
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Comment: "再次感谢"
9 hrs
(the point is "bring...under the wing")
Hope the following may help:
明智的选择是:不要求国家推行这类法律,而将违反这些措施的国家只归类于违反反垄断(or反托辣斯)的范筹(唯求让该措施作废、不能实施)。
明智的选择是:不要求国家推行这类法律,而将违反这些措施的国家只归类于违反反垄断(or反托辣斯)的范筹(唯求让该措施作废、不能实施)。
22 hrs
FYI
明智的选择是:要求国家不推行这类法律,并将国家(也许指州)或地方制订的控制违规措施纳入反垄断(法)的范筹。
Discussion
measures = an official action that is done in order to achieve a particular aim 措施/方法
例句:The government is introducing tougher measures to combat crime 政府正引入更强硬的手段来反击犯罪。
austerity/security measures = 紧缩/保安措施
offending = guilty of a crime = 有罪/违法的
- 《牛津英汉双解词典》
原文:
offending measures = 控制/防止 违规的措施 (并不指违反法律的措施)
如果是 “违反法律的措施’ 的话, 我们如何配合后句 ‘放在 anti-trust’ 的法律里?不合逻辑吧。
@jyuan: To be fair to Mi, I don't think it is not unprofessional for Askers to bring up a machine translation in Kudoz when asking for help. At least Mi has tried her best. To use machine translation is the last option and even so she was in doubt of the reliability of the machine answer and put the question forward in Kudoz.
On the other hand if we Answers were to provide a machine translation without manually scrutinized its suitability to the source text, we would be at fault and become irresponsible.
"bring A under the wing of B" 是指让B受到A的保护。作者的意思是指:国家不制定这类法律将某些可能的措施定为非法,而是将这些措施界定在反垄断法的定义内。这也许是一种避重就轻的方法。
您选择的“以反垄断之名推出控制违规的措施”似乎有点倒因为果且有歧义(用反垄断之名来实施--控制违规的/措施 or 控制/违规的措施)。
不论是"控制违规的/措施" or "控制/违规的措施"都误解了原意。
the offending measures by the state 若还原成the offending measures (MADE) by the state 较容易了解。若国家不制定所提到的法律,这样一来便能将它可能违反这种法律的措施行为,界定在反垄断的法律规范下。
Again, this is only my humble understanding of the text for your reconsideration of your translation.