Dec 14, 2014 14:45
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Greek term
σύμβαση αισχροκερδής
Greek to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
"Να αναγνωριστεί ότι οι επίδικες συμβάσεις είναι αντίθετες στα χρηστά ήθη κατ' άρθρο 178 Α.Κ., ειδικότερα αισχροκερδείς κατ' άρθρο 179 Α.Κ. και συνεπώς άκυρες".
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +1 | profiteering contract | Peter Close |
4 | immoral contract, contract contra bonos mores | Nick Lingris |
Proposed translations
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profiteering contract
See:
Entering into a gaming-related or profiteering contract with a "government official" (i.e., a Board or Commission member or employee, a public official of the state ...
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills01/bills01/S...
My only gripe would be that of the excessive rates charged for car parking, which are charged, I believe, by a greedy and profiteering contract company (rather ...
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/third-world-hospi...
Dec 24, 2010 - Hint - the unilateral profiteering contract agreement signed between that mamak's govt with the operator, whos's the frontman of umno's income ...
http://sakmongkol.blogspot.gr/2010/12/deals-and-last-minute-...
... E. B. Chinn, W. C. Butler and other Puget Sound lum bermen, as having been concerned in an alleged profiteering contract for the logging of the Blodgett tract.
http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/lccn/sn83025138/1919-09-12/ed-...
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See also:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/profite...
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/profitee...
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/profiteering.ht...
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Both the Stamelos-Hatzimanoli Dictionary of Legal Terms and the Oxford Greek to English dictionary define the meaning of the verb ‘αισχροκερδώ’ as being ‘to profiteer’ . Although the Stamelos-Hatzimanoli Dictionary does not state any alternative meanings, the Oxford Dictionary also gives the alternative meanings of ‘overcharge’, ‘overprice’ and ‘make illicit profits’.
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This is also less frequently known as a ‘profiteer contract’. See:
May 19, 2004 - The US military announced on Tuesday morning that two American profiteer contract employees were killed and a third wounded when the ...
http://www.albasrah.net/moqawama/english/0504/iraqiresistanc...
Aug 8, 2009 - If you're not a money-grubbing profiteer, don't take a money-grubbing profiteer's contract. This. posted by Jairus at 2:27 PM on August 8, 2009.
http://ask.metafilter.com/129593/Should-I-take-a-job-in-Bagh...
Jan 14, 2008 - The crime family gives another war profiteer contract to a corporation charged with torture and other crimes. Dwight posted this story.
http://newstrust.net/stories/15130
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You may also want to consider ‘profiteering agreement’ and ‘profiteer agreement’. See:
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1bKNVMfpJpDDaNKFgugI&gws...
and
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1bKNVMfpJpDDaNKFgugI&gws...
Entering into a gaming-related or profiteering contract with a "government official" (i.e., a Board or Commission member or employee, a public official of the state ...
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills01/bills01/S...
My only gripe would be that of the excessive rates charged for car parking, which are charged, I believe, by a greedy and profiteering contract company (rather ...
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/third-world-hospi...
Dec 24, 2010 - Hint - the unilateral profiteering contract agreement signed between that mamak's govt with the operator, whos's the frontman of umno's income ...
http://sakmongkol.blogspot.gr/2010/12/deals-and-last-minute-...
... E. B. Chinn, W. C. Butler and other Puget Sound lum bermen, as having been concerned in an alleged profiteering contract for the logging of the Blodgett tract.
http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/lccn/sn83025138/1919-09-12/ed-...
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Note added at 39 mins (2014-12-14 15:25:14 GMT)
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See also:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/profite...
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/profitee...
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/profiteering.ht...
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Note added at 51 mins (2014-12-14 15:36:50 GMT)
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Both the Stamelos-Hatzimanoli Dictionary of Legal Terms and the Oxford Greek to English dictionary define the meaning of the verb ‘αισχροκερδώ’ as being ‘to profiteer’ . Although the Stamelos-Hatzimanoli Dictionary does not state any alternative meanings, the Oxford Dictionary also gives the alternative meanings of ‘overcharge’, ‘overprice’ and ‘make illicit profits’.
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-14 15:48:25 GMT)
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This is also less frequently known as a ‘profiteer contract’. See:
May 19, 2004 - The US military announced on Tuesday morning that two American profiteer contract employees were killed and a third wounded when the ...
http://www.albasrah.net/moqawama/english/0504/iraqiresistanc...
Aug 8, 2009 - If you're not a money-grubbing profiteer, don't take a money-grubbing profiteer's contract. This. posted by Jairus at 2:27 PM on August 8, 2009.
http://ask.metafilter.com/129593/Should-I-take-a-job-in-Bagh...
Jan 14, 2008 - The crime family gives another war profiteer contract to a corporation charged with torture and other crimes. Dwight posted this story.
http://newstrust.net/stories/15130
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-14 16:04:57 GMT)
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You may also want to consider ‘profiteering agreement’ and ‘profiteer agreement’. See:
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1bKNVMfpJpDDaNKFgugI&gws...
and
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1bKNVMfpJpDDaNKFgugI&gws...
Peer comment(s):
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Andras Mohay (X)
1 day 7 hrs
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Thank you, Andras. An 'agree' from you is always a compliment.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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Greek term (edited):
αισχροκερδής σύμβαση
immoral contract, contract contra bonos mores
Ο όρος "αισχροκερδής" δεν υπάρχει στο άρθρο 179 του Αστικού Κώδικα, αλλά αφορά γενικά το κείμενο του άρθρου και ενδεχομένως ειδικά την ακυρότητα των δικαιοπραξιών που θεωρούνται «αντίθετες προς τα χρηστά ήθη» (contra bonos mores) επειδή «βρίσκονται σε φανερή δυσαναλογία προς την παροχή» (out of proportion to the consideration furnished). Αυτές οι ανήθικες δικαιοπραξίες ονομάζονται συνήθως «αισχροκερδείς», «καταπλεονεκτικές» ή «καταδυναστικές». (Εγκ. Πάπυρος, αισχροκερδής δικαιοπραξία)
Άρθρο 178. Δικαιοπραξία αντίθετη προς τα χρηστά ήθη: Δικαιοπραξία που αντιβαίνει στα χρηστά ήθη είναι άκυρη.
Άρθρο 179. Άκυρη ως αντίθετη προς τα χρηστά ήθη είναι ιδίως η δικαιοπραξία με την οποία δεσμεύεται υπερβολικά η ελευθερία του προσώπου ή η δικαιοπραξία με την οποία εκμεταλλεύεται κάποιος την ανάγκη, την κουφότητα ή την απειρία του άλλου και πετυχαίνει έτσι να συνομολογήσει ή να πάρει για τον εαυτό του ή τρίτο, για κάποια παροχή, περιουσιακά ωφελήματα, που, κατά τις περιστάσεις, βρίσκονται σε φανερή δυσαναλογία προς την παροχή.
http://www.karagiannislawfirm.gr/astiko-dikaio/85-dikaioprax...
This latter rule declares legal transactions to ‘be null as contrary to morality whereby the freedom of a person is hampered excessively or whereby through an exploitation of the need, the levity of character or the lack of experience of the other party are stipulated or received for one’s own benefit or for the benefit of a third party and in consideration of something furnished pecuniary advantages which in the circumstances are obviously out of proportion to the consideration furnished’.
https://books.google.gr/books?id=B4AvUL3Xq7EC&pg=PA211
https://books.google.gr/books?id=nkyIO61J3IYC&pg=PA1621&lpg=...
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Here is a link to the relevant article in Papyros (the encyclopedia):
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3844/tWKcyT.jpg
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:21:43 GMT)
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The term proposed in Basic Concepts of Greek Civil Law (page 144) is “exploitative contracts”.
D. Exploitative juridical acts. The law refers specifically to the exploitative contracts (Art. 179 CC). Exploitative is the juridical act where one, by exploiting the need, levity, or inexperience of the other, succeeds in obtaining for a certain performance pecuniary advantages that are extremely disproportional to his supply.
Examples: - A, being in great financial hardship on account of his need for an urgent surgical procedure abroad, sold his immovable property to E, worth 90,000 euros, for a mere 30,000 euros.
- A, pressured by great financial need, borrowed money from B at great cost, i.e. he concluded a loan contract at an exorbitant interest rate.
http://www.academia.edu/6852425/BASIC_CONCEPTS_OF_GREEK_CIVI...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:31:20 GMT)
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And here's another one who likes "exploitative":
https://books.google.gr/books?id=lZAdqJicsdoC&pg=PA109#v=one...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:35:11 GMT)
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Once more, a more general and less controversial rendering:
articles 178 and 179, ‘contracts contrary to moral ethics’
http://www.drakopoulos-law.com/mediaupload/pdf_ip/Licensing ... (first column, no 3)
Άρθρο 178. Δικαιοπραξία αντίθετη προς τα χρηστά ήθη: Δικαιοπραξία που αντιβαίνει στα χρηστά ήθη είναι άκυρη.
Άρθρο 179. Άκυρη ως αντίθετη προς τα χρηστά ήθη είναι ιδίως η δικαιοπραξία με την οποία δεσμεύεται υπερβολικά η ελευθερία του προσώπου ή η δικαιοπραξία με την οποία εκμεταλλεύεται κάποιος την ανάγκη, την κουφότητα ή την απειρία του άλλου και πετυχαίνει έτσι να συνομολογήσει ή να πάρει για τον εαυτό του ή τρίτο, για κάποια παροχή, περιουσιακά ωφελήματα, που, κατά τις περιστάσεις, βρίσκονται σε φανερή δυσαναλογία προς την παροχή.
http://www.karagiannislawfirm.gr/astiko-dikaio/85-dikaioprax...
This latter rule declares legal transactions to ‘be null as contrary to morality whereby the freedom of a person is hampered excessively or whereby through an exploitation of the need, the levity of character or the lack of experience of the other party are stipulated or received for one’s own benefit or for the benefit of a third party and in consideration of something furnished pecuniary advantages which in the circumstances are obviously out of proportion to the consideration furnished’.
https://books.google.gr/books?id=B4AvUL3Xq7EC&pg=PA211
https://books.google.gr/books?id=nkyIO61J3IYC&pg=PA1621&lpg=...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 12:45:48 GMT)
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Here is a link to the relevant article in Papyros (the encyclopedia):
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3844/tWKcyT.jpg
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:21:43 GMT)
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The term proposed in Basic Concepts of Greek Civil Law (page 144) is “exploitative contracts”.
D. Exploitative juridical acts. The law refers specifically to the exploitative contracts (Art. 179 CC). Exploitative is the juridical act where one, by exploiting the need, levity, or inexperience of the other, succeeds in obtaining for a certain performance pecuniary advantages that are extremely disproportional to his supply.
Examples: - A, being in great financial hardship on account of his need for an urgent surgical procedure abroad, sold his immovable property to E, worth 90,000 euros, for a mere 30,000 euros.
- A, pressured by great financial need, borrowed money from B at great cost, i.e. he concluded a loan contract at an exorbitant interest rate.
http://www.academia.edu/6852425/BASIC_CONCEPTS_OF_GREEK_CIVI...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:31:20 GMT)
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And here's another one who likes "exploitative":
https://books.google.gr/books?id=lZAdqJicsdoC&pg=PA109#v=one...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-12-15 13:35:11 GMT)
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Once more, a more general and less controversial rendering:
articles 178 and 179, ‘contracts contrary to moral ethics’
http://www.drakopoulos-law.com/mediaupload/pdf_ip/Licensing ... (first column, no 3)
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Peter Close
: See: ‘immoral contract’http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/immorality & http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/immoral & http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Contra bonos m...
4 hrs
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agree |
Alexandra Karanikolou
9 hrs
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Discussion
Peter, I've never asked for "references linking ‘profiteering’ with the ‘Civil Code’ in countries other than Greece". I have very specifically been referring to the reluctance of writers to use 'profiteering' in English texts about these articles of the Greek Civil Code. It seems the articles have been based on similar articles of the German Civil Code, though. You may have better luck there.
@Andras: At the very beginning of my answer it says "αφορά γενικά το κείμενο του άρθρου και ενδεχομένως ειδικά την ακυρότητα των δικαιοπραξιών". I do not know the rest of Caroline's text. I have not restricted myself to the general answer that corresponds to "ανήθικος". I have looked for the solutions proposed by other writers, such as "exploitative". In the lexilogia link you mentioned, Themis, a translator for the EU, wrote:
"Το exploitative contract του Δόκτορα φαίνεται εύλογη εκδοχή, αν και θα χρειαζόταν περισσότερη έρευνα της χρήσης του. Βρήκα επίσης κάποια ενδιαφέροντα ευρήματα για profiteering contract, που όμως φαίνεται να ταιριάζουν μόνο σε περιπτώσεις αγοραπωλησίας, κρατικών προμηθειών κτλ."
Και συνεχίζει:
"Αν λείπει ένα από τα στοιχεία αυτά δεν μπορεί να γίνει λόγος περί ακυρότητας της δικαιοπραξίας ως αισχροκερδούς, δεν αποκλείεται όμως και στην περίπτωση αυτή ακυρότητα της δικαιοπραξίας αυτής λόγω αντίθεσής της προς τα χρηστά ήθη, κατά την γενική διάταξη του άρθρου 178 ΑΚ, αν συντρέχουν στοιχεία προσδίδοντα σε αυτήν ανήθικο χαρακτήρα."
http://lexilogia.gr/forum/showthread.php?14187-καταπλεονεκτι...
Άρα άλλο "αισχροκερδής" και άλλο "immoral" & "contra bonos mores", καθ' ομολογίαν --έμμεση, πλην σαφή-- του ίδιου.
Need I continue? I can go on until the cows come home.
Στην ουσία η πράξη συνιστά Αισχροκέρδεια (πλεονεξία για αθέμιτη κερδοσκοπία) η οποία αποτελεί αδίκημα κατά τον Ποινικό Κώδικα που, σύμφωνα με τον Αστικό Κώδικα, μπορεί να επιφέρει και ακύρωση της οποιασδήποτε δικαιοπραξίας επί της οποίας βασίστηκε. Παράλληλα, από πλευράς Ενοχικού Δικαίου (ως κλάδου του Αστικού Δικαίου) αντιβαίνει τις αξίες, τις αρχές, τις διατάξεις και τη δεοντολογία της Προστασίας του Καταναλωτή ένεκα καταδολίευσης και αθέμιτων πρακτικών.
http://www.arcadiaportal.gr/news/oi-protaseis-tis-perifereia...
http://www.nbonline.gr/journals/3/volumes/176/issues/883/lem...
and
http://www.palo.gr/blogs/eidhseis-ellada/ak-178-kai-ak-179-a...
and
http://foggs.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id...
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=h_SOVObiKYSq8QOdk4GoDg&g...
and
https://www.google.gr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=h_SOVObiKYSq8QOdk4GoDg&g...
That would appear to say that profiteering contracts are a recognised sub-category of contra bonos mores contracts under Article 179.
manifestly disproportionate
https://books.google.gr/books?id=9AmfbET7GJ4C&pg=PA282#v=one...
obviously disproportionate
https://books.google.gr/books?id=wzKz5QlMnwUC&pg=PA113 (11.1)
clearly disproportionate (Note 345)
https://books.google.gr/books?id=12IYS2DuAlcC&pg=PA124
Or the Latin term.
Profiteering is never used in connection with Articles 178 and 179 of the Greek Civil Code.