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English translation: in the form of a defense

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Spanish term or phrase:en forma de excepcion
English translation:in the form of a defense
Entered by: Patricia Castrillon

18:09 Jun 25, 2015
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Semanario Judicial de la Federación, Quinta Época, Tomo XXXIII, página 716
Spanish term or phrase: en forma de excepcion
"DEMANDA, ADMISION DE LA. Los jueces y tribunales están facultados para normar sus actos conforme a la ley del procedimiento,...y cuando la demanda no se entabla en la vía legal pertinente, debe desecharse de plano, sin que obste el razonamiento de que la parte contraria no alegue esa improcedencia, toda vez que esto solamente podrá hacerlo en la forma de excepción, lo cual no es posible, puesto que no se da entrada a la demanda."
Patricia Castrillon
Local time: 19:51
in the form of a defense
Explanation:
which he can't submit 'cos the case has not been admitted for processing

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in the US for example

(b) How to Present Defenses. Every defense to a claim for relief in any pleading must be asserted in the responsive pleading if one is required. But a party may assert the following defenses by motion:

(1) lack of subject-matter jurisdiction;

(2) lack of personal jurisdiction;

(3) improper venue;

(4) insufficient process;

(5) insufficient service of process;

(6) failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted; and

(7) failure to join a party under Rule 19.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_12



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An "objection" is a valid lay term for this but is misleading, particularly when it is likely to be understood as:

In the law of the United States of America, an objection is a formal protest raised in court during a trial to disallow a witness's testimony or other evidence which would be in violation of the rules of evidence or other procedural law. An objection is typically raised after the opposing party asks a question of the witness, but before the witness can answer, or when the opposing party is about to enter something into evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objection_(law)

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¿Que es la Excepción procesal ?
La excepción procesal es un medio de defensa, de fondo y de forma, por el cuál el demandado opone resistencia a la demanda del actor, resistencia que tienen la intención de destruir la marcha de la acción o la acción misma.
- See more at: http://jorgemachicado.blogspot.com.es/2010/03/excpro.html#st...

http://jorgemachicado.blogspot.com.es/2010/03/excpro.html
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Billh
Local time: 03:51
Grading comment
Thank you for all the help. I know this was not an easy question because of all the discussion that arose as a result. I chose this answer because it was the one that had the most peer agreements.
2 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5in the form of a defense
Billh
5 -1as an objection
Henry Hinds
4 -1by motion
Richard Hill
4 -3unless suing the other party
Octavio Garcia


  

Answers


3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
by motion


Explanation:
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_general/517...

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Excepción
...
2. defense, plea, motion,
demurrer, exception, objection; legal argument
used as a defense in a lawsuit.

Javier E Becerra
DICCIONARIO DE TERMINOLOGIA JURIDICA MEXICANA

Richard Hill
Mexico
Local time: 21:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 473

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: Thanks for the useful references, but I think billh's answer is better.
42 mins
  -> It's my understading that they are saying that this can only be done by [filing a] motion, such as a motion to dismiss based on lack of jurisdiction, considering that it wasn't filed through the applicable legal proceeding.
disagree  Henry Hinds: Objection... that is among the definitions you mention yourself.
1 hr
  -> motion
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
unless suing the other party


Explanation:
In this context as the other party had not formaly sue, the only way to do it is by excepcion... or unless suing the other party

Octavio Garcia
Mexico
Local time: 19:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Billh: you really don't understand this
2 mins
disagree  Henry Hinds: Unfortunately, you really don't understand this either.
55 mins
disagree  AllegroTrans: you clearly do not understand this at all
2 days 23 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
as an objection


Explanation:
En el lenguaje jurídico mexicano, en este contexto "excepción" en inglés es "objection".

Respuesta avalada por más de 43 años traduciendo documentos mexicanos y además por Javier F. Becerra.

Henry Hinds
United States
Local time: 20:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 5063

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Billh: It's a defense
31 mins
  -> You're pretty far away to be challenging me on this one and it's poor judgment to do so. You're just flat wrong.
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
in the form of a defense


Explanation:
which he can't submit 'cos the case has not been admitted for processing

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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-06-25 20:21:36 GMT)
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in the US for example

(b) How to Present Defenses. Every defense to a claim for relief in any pleading must be asserted in the responsive pleading if one is required. But a party may assert the following defenses by motion:

(1) lack of subject-matter jurisdiction;

(2) lack of personal jurisdiction;

(3) improper venue;

(4) insufficient process;

(5) insufficient service of process;

(6) failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted; and

(7) failure to join a party under Rule 19.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_12



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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-06-25 20:57:18 GMT)
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An "objection" is a valid lay term for this but is misleading, particularly when it is likely to be understood as:

In the law of the United States of America, an objection is a formal protest raised in court during a trial to disallow a witness's testimony or other evidence which would be in violation of the rules of evidence or other procedural law. An objection is typically raised after the opposing party asks a question of the witness, but before the witness can answer, or when the opposing party is about to enter something into evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objection_(law)

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¿Que es la Excepción procesal ?
La excepción procesal es un medio de defensa, de fondo y de forma, por el cuál el demandado opone resistencia a la demanda del actor, resistencia que tienen la intención de destruir la marcha de la acción o la acción misma.
- See more at: http://jorgemachicado.blogspot.com.es/2010/03/excpro.html#st...

http://jorgemachicado.blogspot.com.es/2010/03/excpro.html

Billh
Local time: 03:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1149
Grading comment
Thank you for all the help. I know this was not an easy question because of all the discussion that arose as a result. I chose this answer because it was the one that had the most peer agreements.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
8 mins
  -> Thanks Phil
disagree  Henry Hinds: It's an objection, which also cannot be made because the case has not been admitted.
53 mins
  -> overruled
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