Apr 19, 2016 02:17
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Indonesian term

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Rosida Widyastuti Mar 15, 2018:
Mohon bantuannya, bagaimana dengan terjemahan bahasa Inggris "Alat bukti Petunjuk"? Apakah bisa menggunakan beberapa referensi tersebut di atas, ataukah ada padanan yang lain?
Hipyan Nopri Apr 19, 2016:
Terima Kasih Oke, terima kasih atas konfirmasinya.
Tony Zhou (asker) Apr 19, 2016:
Kalimat tersebut memang dari putusan pengadilan
Hipyan Nopri Apr 19, 2016:
Kesimpulan Sementara Saya menafsirkan kalimat tsb terdapat dalam suatu putusan pengadilan. Apakah kesimpulan ini benar?
Tony Zhou (asker) Apr 19, 2016:
Maaf, ada kesalahan, seharusnya "Menetapkan barang bukti berupa: 1(satu) obeng"
Hipyan Nopri Apr 19, 2016:
Konteks Tolong diberikan kalimat lengkapnya supaya jelas makna yg dimaksud. Terima kasih.

Proposed translations

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(The court/panel of judges) admit/accept a screwdriver as the real evidence

Memang cukup sulit mencari padanan bahasa Inggris dari 'barang bukti' dalam konteks hukum Indonesia karena kedua sistem hukum memiliki gagasan yg berbeda mengenai bukti.

Dalam sistem hukum Indonesia dikenal alat bukti dan barang bukti, sedangkan dalam sistem hukum Common Law tidak ada pembedaan bukti seperti ini.

Di Indonesia, alat bukti: keterangan saksi, surat/dokumen, dan keterangan terdakwa.

Di negara yg menganut CL, bukti: kesaksian, surat/dokumen, dan barang nyata.

Karena itu, selaras dg rujukan di bawah ini, saya mengusulkan:

barang bukti = real evidence

menetapkan obeng sebagai barang bukti = the court/panel of judges admit/accept a screwdriver as the real evidence.

Rujukan:
http://www.hukumonline.com/klinik/detail/lt4e8ec99e4d2ae/apa...
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1 hr

admit[-ted] into evidence

As a trial lawyer, you know that it’s not enough to merely limp across the finish line and get your exhibits admitted into evidence. - See more at: http://trialtheater.com/evidence/magic-phrases-for-admitting...
http://trialtheater.com/evidence/magic-phrases-for-admitting...

More evidence is likely to be admitted, regardless of its reliability or prejudicial effect. Evidence is admitted if the Judge decides it is relevant.
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http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/global-publications/...

Both state and federal rules of evidence serve as a guide for judges and attorneys so that they can determine whether to admit evidence—that is, whether to allow evidence to be observed by the judge or jury making factual conclusions in a trial.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

'Best' evidence means, for example, that first-hand evidence is preferred to second-hand evidence. Rules of fairness, for example, are intended to prevent evidence that is prejudicial, and is of little value in proving any relevant fact, from being admitted.
http://www.legalanswers.sl.nsw.gov.au/guides/defend_yourself...
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2 days 18 hrs

(The Court) decreed the following item/s as real evidence, namely: 1 (one) screwdriver

Saya beri pilihan "items" jika ternyata ada beberapa barang bukti. Jika hanya satu, maka saya anjurkan menggunakan "item".
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3 days 9 hrs
Indonesian term (edited): menetapkan barang bukti berupa

order that evidence in the form of


☕ Sedikit penelisikan tentang putusan pengadilan (a.l. http://putusan.mahkamahagung.go.id/putusan/84d2b849550f9274b... menghasilkan pola kalimat berikut:

AMAR: Menguatkan
CATATAN AMAR: ..... Menetapkan barang bukti berupa: -[nama barang] Dirampas untuk dimusnahkan, [nama barang] Digunakan dalam perkara atas nama...


☕ Jadi, kalimat di atas bukan untuk mengakui sesuatu sebagai barang bukti, melainkan memerintahkan apa yang harus dilakukan terhadap barang bukti setelah pengadilan menjatuhkan putusan.

✔ Karena itu, menetapkan di sini kira-kira sama dengan memerintahkan / order. U/ kata berupa, firasat saya adalah punya padanan yang lebih baik daripada kata-kata in the form of. Kalau bersua, akan saya sampaikan.

Berikut contoh perintah pemusnahan barang bukti.

SURJAYA ✸✸✸✸✸
http://www.tdcaa.com/node/4196
The weapon shall not be returned but ordered destroyed or forfeited to the state for law enforcement or county forensic lab use by the court entering the judgment...

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05/12469/randa-kills-wiscon...
It is not clear when the last time was that a federal judge actually ordered that evidence in a criminal case be destroyed ...

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6439126-evidence-on-abuse-...
Canada, the TRC and the NCTR challenge the overall reasonableness of the Supervising Judge's order to destroy the IAP Documents.
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7 days

Order the forms of evidence

Ada istilah Forms of Evidence dan Real Evidence yang masing-masing dapat diartikan sebagai Alat Bukti dan Barang Bukti. Walau ada perbedaan antara Common Law dan negatief wettelijk stelsel, dua istilah di atas tetap mewakili Alat Bukti dan Barang Bukti.

Dalam Common Law, Real Evidence adalah salah satu bagian dari Forms of Evidence, sementara dalam negatief wettelijk stelsel, Real Evidence bukan bagian dari Forms of Evidence.
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