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Aug 8, 2017 15:01
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French term

carreaux d’or poinçonnés

French to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting illuminated manuscripts
"tous les types de fonds ornés chers à l’atelier de XXXX : fonds mosaïqués, aussi présents dans la tradition parisienne, dont certaines variantes à carreaux d’or poinçonnés sont singulières".

Perforated gold squares? I have translated "fonds mosaïqués" as "chequered backgrounds".
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 stamped gold squares
4 +2 gold tooling or punchwork
References
poinçon

Discussion

B D Finch (asker) Aug 9, 2017:
@philgoddard They were very helpful thanks. I posted their answer on my previous questions.
B D Finch (asker) Aug 9, 2017:
@Nikki As my text has just used the word "damier", I shall have to rethink "chequered" for "mosaïqué". But, Rebecca's ref. has led me to a potentially very different meaning for that: "Mosaic gold ... An artificial bronze-coloured sulphide of tin". I can't offer illustrations because of confidentiality, but it isn't, in any case, clear which particular illuminations are referred to here. Having consulted some examples of the original works, I think that "chequered" was correct, while "damier" can be a particular type of blocky check or "chequerboard".
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Aug 8, 2017:
Just curious I am curious as to how you arrived at the term "chequered" for "mosaïqué" as the ST seems to allow for a wider meaning. (This is the point where you probably reply that you have an illustration)! ;-)
philgoddard Aug 8, 2017:
How did you get on with the College of Heralds?

Proposed translations

+1
20 mins
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stamped gold squares

Poinconner also means to stamp.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/poinconner


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Note added at 24 mins (2017-08-08 15:25:30 GMT)
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You could also say "punched":
Punching: a stamp or punching tool is tapped into the surface of the gilding after burnishing using a hammer, either to impress the design of the stamp, or to create deeper dotted patterns, outlines and shading.
http://baronmorgan.gallowglass.org/articles/cna05_patternedg...
Example sentence:

[Persian manuscript]., [Iran], 1823., MS W.56. ... Leather covers with gold leaf onlay and tooling, rebacked, red leather doublures with stamped, gold onlay.

...tooled and stamped patterns on the gold leaf

Reference:

http://www.themorgan.org/manuscript/182936

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Illuminated_Manuscripts_in_Classical_and_Mediaeval_Times

Note from asker:
Thanks Phil. It could be "stamped".
Peer comment(s):
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : This GDT entry may be helpful as with an engraver's point a square can be stamped on http://www.granddictionnaire.com/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=845...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Phil"
+2
4 hrs

gold tooling or punchwork

Although the term 'gold tooling' often refers to adding gold elements to leather bindings, it can also refer to patterns applied to a gold background. This is also sometimes called 'punchwork'.

See these sites with useful English terminology for illuminated manuscripts (the first one is particularly good):

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/illuminated/manuscript/disco...

http://web.ceu.hu/medstud/manual/MMM/glossary.html#gilding
Note from asker:
Thanks Rebecca. I wouldn't use "gold tooling", as that's too general and this is a specific tooling technique. Could be "punchwork". Thanks for your "fitz" ref., which has thrown up an unexpected "Mosaic gold ... An artificial bronze-coloured sulphide of tin". I shall have to consult my client.
Peer comment(s):
agree Charles Davis : "Tooled" is the word that came to my mind.
27 mins
agree James A. Walsh : "Gold tooling" is familiar to my ear and works fine, IMO.
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Reference comments

1 hr
Reference:

poinçon

Just to add to the likely meaning of "poinçonnés", there is a "poinçon" on every gold or silver ring, chain, etc.

"Il y a en France plus de 5000 différents poinçons depuis le moyen âge"

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-08-08 16:27:05 GMT)
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Oh well, with gold leaf on paper, I don't know if it's this poinçon then.
Reference:

http://comparateur-or.com/vendre-mon-or/poincons-or

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