Aug 30, 2018 17:40
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Spanish term

\"Miel multifloral cremosa\"

Spanish to English Marketing Food & Drink honey
Hi all,

I was wondering if the translation should be "MULTI FLORAL creamed honey" , "MULTI FLORA creamed honey" or "MULTI-FLORAL creamed honey".
We are always talking about jars of honey to sell.

Thank you all!

Discussion

betahernandez (asker) Aug 31, 2018:
Wow you are giving me a lot to think about guys! Great debate. It is meant for Europe and Dubai's marketing at the moment. Hope that helps!
Charles Davis Aug 31, 2018:
"Set" and "soft set" are not the same thing. Soft set isn't honey that's just been left to set naturally; it's been "creamed", which basically means stirred/churned/mixed, because the crucial issue is the size of the crystals.

"So what on earth is Soft Set/Creamed Honey?
This is a question we’re often asked about our Soft Set Honey. Usually followed by, ‘why is it so white?’ It becomes even more confusing when we call it by its other name – Creamed Honey. So what is it? Well, there’s no cream added to the honey. In fact there’s nothing at all added. Soft Set Honey is simply honey that has been mixed…and mixed…and then mixed some more."
https://tillysnaturalcosmetics.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/so-w...

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLGE-7n0_Ko
Rachel Fell Aug 31, 2018:
I think it depends whether the honey in question is processed to be "cremosa" or is naturally set - http://www.brightwellbees.co.uk/set-or-runny-honey/453680187...
Rick Larg Aug 31, 2018:
@ Georgie I don't know. I left this observation/question in my answer:

Is multiflower more common in the US than in the UK? And multifloral more usual in the UK?
Cecilia Gowar Aug 31, 2018:
@Georgie Of course I will! I am curious myself. I have written to a producer I know but he might take long to reply. Will share his feedback!
Georgie Scott Aug 31, 2018:
@Cecilia Please share if you do, I can't find anything to imply they are not the same thing.
Cecilia Gowar Aug 31, 2018:
I have seen both terms and always understood they meant the obvious: one is from wild flowers and the other one from any type of flowers, including crops, gardens, etc. However I have not found official proof of this so far, having had not much time to research.
Georgie Scott Aug 31, 2018:
@Rick ie. they are synonymous?

Because, if they are synonymous, "wildflower honey" gets 100,000 more Google hits (150,000) than most of the alternatives, followed by "multiflora honey" (80,000) which gets significantly more hits than polyfloral, multifloral and multiflower, with or without hyphens (all around 20,000). (I use this term A LOT in my work, so I have a vested interest in this thread)
Rick Larg Aug 31, 2018:
@George "So the main thing affecting the type of honey is the type of flower. Most honey you’ll see is multifloral or ‘wildflower’ – this just means that the bees have foraged on a mix of different flowers."https://www.justbeedrinks.co.uk/99393-2/
Georgie Scott Aug 31, 2018:
Multi-flower/Multifloral/Multi-flora/Polyflora Out of interest, what would be the difference between wildflower honey and multi-flower honey? Cecilia, you say it is a specific type of honey, perhaps you could expand?
Charles Davis Aug 31, 2018:
@Cecilia I'm no honey expert but I wasn't aware of "creamed honey". There are online references; Blue Bell Hill Apiaries market "Kent Creamed Honey":
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/waitrose-price-comparison/Jam...

But it's telling, perhaps, that another brand available in supermarkets, Hilltop Honey, is listed as "Raw British Creamed Honey", but on the label, when you look, it says "Raw British Soft Set Honey":
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/lidl-price-comparison/Jam_And...
Cecilia Gowar Aug 31, 2018:
Thanks Charles. I am a big fan of honey and don't recall seeing or buying "creamed honey" in the UK. In France it is certainly called "crémeux".
Charles Davis Aug 30, 2018:
"Creamed" in the UK Following on from Cecilia's reference, there are a number of websites in which British beekeepers and honey producers say that "creamed honey" and "soft set honey" are the same thing, but that as the result of a court case the term "creamed honey" is not acceptable on the label (though you can use it in the product description) because it contains no cream. It looks as though this has some basis, but I haven't see any indication of the details of the case. "Creamed honey" continues to be marketed in the UK but it may be legally risky to call it that.
Georgie Scott Aug 30, 2018:
All correct I was trying to "agree" with the first answer. I think they're all correct.

Proposed translations

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Multifloral creamed honey

I would say

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https://www.amazon.com/Multiflora-Honey-4-4.../B001BC745U - Traducir esta página
Calificación: 3,4 - ‎11 opiniones
Multiflora Honey is processed using state-of-the-art equipment and our world-renowned “creamed” honey process to create a honey with a beautifully smooth ...

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creamed multifloral honey

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www.chinookhoney.com/.../creamed-alberta-multi-floral-honey...

Creamed Alberta Multi Floral Honey. $8.50 – $36.75. Enjoy our smooth spreadable creamed honey. Our creamed honeys are natural and unpasteurized.

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I think "creamed" is the best way to go in this context

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and stick a hyphen in if you like but not essential
Peer comment(s):

agree Georgie Scott : I think the order is probably creamed multifloral honey though, what are your thoughts?
1 hr
not sure George but I think I prefer your word order
agree Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
1 day 14 hrs
obrigado Antonio
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "THANK YOU! I will go with CREAMED MULTIFLORAL HONEY "
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Creamy multiflower honey

Creamy rather than creamed I would imagine. A texture/flavour thing more than a process...

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Is multiflower more common in the US than in the UK? And multifloral more usual
in the UK? If so I would answer "CREAMY MULTFLORAL HONEY"

"So the main thing affecting the type of honey is the type of flower. Most honey you’ll see is multifloral or ‘wildflower’ – this just means that the bees have foraged on a mix of different flowers."https://www.justbeedrinks.co.uk/99393-2/
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multiflower soft set honey

Also multi-flower:
¨Soft set honey was often called creamed honey before that description was effectively outlawed – at least for labelling purposes – under the trade descriptions act because it 'contains no cream'. ... Winter is a good time to prepare soft set honey as it requires low temperatures.¨
http://theapiarist.org/making-soft-set-honey/

organic multiflower honey
https://www.hilltop-honey.com/products/organic-honey-range/o...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Rachel Fell : I think it's more than soft set, which I like - it's processed to be "creamed" (refs. below)
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agree Charles Davis : The overwhelming consensus is that soft set and creamed are the same thing but you're no longer allowed to call it creamed in the UK. So this is the term if that is the market.
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Creamed wild/wildflower honey

Just a thought, haven't got the time to look into it properly right now/back it up, but I think wild/wildflower is the more common term. Creamed rather than creamy also seems correct but I think there are other terms too.

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https://savannahbee.com/blog/monofloral-vs-polyfloral-honey-...

"all honey types can be divided into 2 general groups - polyfloral honeys and monofloral honeys...You may also hear the two categories referred to as multi-flower varieties and single flower varieties respectively...Polyfloral honeys, also known as wildflower honey varieties are produced by honey bees using the nectar from many different flower species."
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cecilia Gowar : Wildflower is a specific type of honey
42 mins
Wildflower isn't a monofloral, if that's what you mean
agree Patrice
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8 hrs

multi-flora whipped/spun honey

I found the most references to 'multi-flora (not 'multifloral') creamed honey' . But to circumvent the problem, I'd like to propose 'whipped honey' (no hits, I admit), as 'whipped' is a term widely used in the US.

Examples:

honestcooking.com/your-new-favorite-breakfast-creamed-honey/
Jan 6, 2014 - **Creamed honey, also called whipped honey, spun honey, churned honey**. My dad made it a couple of days ago and my favorite breakfast was ...

**https://queenbeegardens.com/product/whipped-honey/
Whipped Honey. Our Whipped Honey features pure, wild clover Wyoming honey churned with all natural ingredients to make this an instant favorite. ...**

https://cloisterhoney.com/collections/whipped-honey/floral
**Whipped Honey (also called creamed, churned, hard, spun or set honey) is honey in which we have controlled crystallization in order to produce a smooth, ...**

Multiflora Honey | Comvita® Official Website – AU
https://www.comvita.com.au/products/multiflora-honey-500g/F1...
A$18.95 - ‎In stock
Comvita® **Multiflora Honey** is created using our world-renowned 'creamed' honey process to create a honey with a beautiful smooth texture and superb ...

www.honeyworld.sg › Native Honey › Arataki
Clover Honey is very popular amongst those who enjoy a sweet, light honey. Product ... Clover Liquid/Creamed Honey 250g ... **Multi-Flora Creamed Honey** 250g ...
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Reference comments

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Reference:

re creamed honey

Hadn't heard of creamed honey, but:

Creamed honey is honey that has been processed to control crystallization. Creamed honey contains a large number of small crystals, which prevent the formation of larger crystals that can occur in unprocessed honey. The processing also produces a honey with a smooth spreadable consistency.

Other names for creamed honey include cremed honey, whipped honey, spun honey, churned honey, honey fondant, and (in the UK) set honey. It may also be called candied honey,[citation needed] though that term generally refers to crystallized honey.[1]

Production methods
The first method for producing creamed honey was patented by Elton J. Dyce in 1935 (U.S. Patent 1,987,893). In this process, raw honey is first pasteurized to kill any yeasts that may be present in the honey. After pasteurization, previously processed creamed honey is added to the pasteurized honey to produce a mixture of 10% creamed honey and 90% pasteurized honey. The mixture is then allowed to rest at a controlled temperature of 57 °F (14 °C). This method will produce a batch of creamed honey in about one week. A seed batch can be made by allowing normal honey to crystallize and crushing the crystals to the desired size. Large scale producers have modified this process by using paddles to stir the honey mixture while holding the mixture at 57 °F (14 °C).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creamed_honey

Para lograr este producto, la miel es sometida a un proceso mecánico de batido que le proporciona una textura agradable, suave y de calidad única. Este proceso nos permite ofrecer una miel fácilmente untable conservando su sabor y propiedades naturales.

https://bakedpasteleriaco.mitiendanube.com/productos/miel-mu...
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