Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

La mue qui aboutit à l’imago est dite imaginale.

English translation:

The process leading to the imago is called the imaginal stage

Added to glossary by jethro
Sep 19, 2018 14:14
5 yrs ago
French term

La mue qui aboutit à l’imago est dite imaginale.

French to English Art/Literary Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-) Mosaic workshop for disabled people
Help please.

This expression comes in this context

Je commencerai par une définition du mot Imago, qui désigne le stade final d’un individu dont le développement se déroule en plusieurs phases (en général œuf, larve et imago).

La mue qui aboutit à l’imago est dite imaginale.

My rough translation:

I would like to start with a definition of the word Imago, which refers to the final stage of an individual whose development takes place in several phases (usually egg, larva and imago).

Even rougher translation of the sentence in question:

. The molting resulting in the imago is known as fledgling???
Change log

Sep 19, 2018 14:25: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Other" , "Field (write-in)" from "Mosaic workshop for disabled people" to "(none)"

Sep 19, 2018 16:32: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Art/Literary"

Sep 19, 2018 16:33: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "Mosaic workshop for disabled people "

Discussion

philgoddard Sep 19, 2018:
Seems a bit creepy comparing children to insects.
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
Thanks for everybody for their help
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
verb fledge Why would you want to use an extremely rare and misleading verb, when there are much more direct translations? The French uses commonly-known vocabulary, and defines the two more unusual terms.
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
That sounds very good, Philippa, thanks very much.
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
Currently, most of the hopper bands are in their final stage before they fledge, obtain wings and become adults.
Actuellement, la plupart des bandes larvaires est au dernier stade avant la mue imaginale, l'acquisition des ailes et la transformation en ailés.
Philippa Smith Sep 19, 2018:
The added context helps: why not simply say something like "The process leading to the imago is called the imaginal stage." The teacher is using the very specialised "imago" and "imaginal" terms for a reason, so I'd stick with them (unless there's further context that gives you a reason not to).
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
the final moult Fledging is not a word for moult. It simply can't work. Moult refers to a process. Fledging refers to a status or state.
Philippa Smith Sep 19, 2018:
@David I was about to agree about "fledgling" but then realised Jethro is using "fledging", the verb. But according to Wikipedia, it only applies to birds and some bats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fledge
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
Mosaic workshop for disabled people OK. But why is the author mentioning "imago"? Are any of these words used figuratively in their text?
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
She is comparing her students to a creature turning into an imago
It's the final moult not the final stage of anything
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
fledgling "qui désigne le stade final d’un individu"

Just to be clear, scientifically as well as poetically, a fledgling is never the "final" stage of anything. Fledgling strongly implies the first stage of something, in these cases the first stages of maturity.
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
Mosaic workshop for disabled people
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
Context What's the context? Is this an artist explaining their title(s) or something similar?
David Vaughn Sep 19, 2018:
fledging Without more context, fledgling seems like a bad translation to me.
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:
How about: the final moult to became an adult or imago is known as fledging
jethro (asker) Sep 19, 2018:

Curtiss Fledgling, a trainer aircraft
Fergie's Fledglings, a group of Manchester United players recruited under the management of Alex Ferguson
Fledgling (birds), a young bird that has recently left its nest but is still dependent upon parental care and feeding
Fledgling (insect), an insect that has just fledged, i.e. undergone its final moult to become an adult or imago.
Fledgling (novel), a 2005 science fiction novel by Octavia Butler
Fledgling, a 2009 novel of the Liaden universe
Philippa Smith Sep 19, 2018:
The Wikipedia ref given by David says it all, and going by the info there: "is known as the imaginal stage". See also: http://www.entomologa.ru/outline/100.htm
Alain Pommet Sep 19, 2018:
imaginal Imaginale is an adjective: I get around 5000 ghits for "imaginal moult"
philgoddard Sep 19, 2018:
Fledging (not fledgling) refers to birds. This is about insects.
Lorraine Dubuc Sep 19, 2018:
The moult? (or molt) Undergoing the final moult to become imago (or adult) is called fledgling

Proposed translations

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The process leading to the imago is called the imaginal stage

As discussed - hopefully striking the right balance between the 'technical' tone of the terms and the art/educational context.
Note from asker:
Thanks a lot Philippa.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard
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Ta Phil!
agree Lorraine Dubuc : I like 'imaginal stage' a lot.
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Thanks Lorraine!
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'emergence' - imago emerges from pupa into adult form

Imaginale describes the fourth stage of the life cycle of an insect during its complete metamorphosis. I think the term 'emergence' can be used to describe the way in which as you state the adult 'fledges' or 'emerges' from the pupal form.

The insect is said to go through a metamorphosis when it changes between forms/ life stages, but between individual stages it emerges. e.g. insect emerges (or there is another term 'eclose'/'eclosion'):

https://www.amentsoc.org/insects/glossary/groups/insect-life...
https://www.amentsoc.org/insects/glossary/terms/metamorphosi...
https://www.amentsoc.org/insects/glossary/terms/pupa
Example sentence:

The pupa (plural pupae) is the third stage in the life cycle of insects undergoing complete metamorphosis. The four stages are: Egg Larvae Pupa Imago/adult.

The emergence of an adult insect from a pupa or a larvae (or nymph) from an egg is called eclosion.

Peer comment(s):

neutral David Vaughn : This was originally posted in the "art" category. I'm not sure why it was transferred. But it seems likely that the terminology is used in a "poetic" manner and that it may be necessary to stick closer to the original.
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The moult leading to imago is called fledgling

Several examples of 'mue imaginale' being 'fledgling' in English
Example sentence:

The moult leading to imago is called fledgling

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