Sep 25, 2018 18:03
5 yrs ago
German term

zum Gönnerbook

German to English Other Tourism & Travel
There is very little context as the source text is in no particular order but it does have to do with tourism development, hotels, annual general meetings and skiing.
Could be something to do with Steuerwert Aktie (what do you translate this as mostly?) that comes before it, or it could be to do with hotels, or contact information, or registering for 'gästeehrung' which might mean some kind of welcoming ceremony but open to ideas.

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Sep 28, 2018:
Just as I thought Here's the third link about Gönnerbook:
http://vs-wallis.ch/unwetter/0316.html

It says "Kampagne." In any case, even if it were a Gönnerbuch (entirely in German), it would be neither a book nor a list.

Here is one:
https://issuu.com/damian.indermitte/docs/g__nnerbuch_stechfe...

Compare
http://somersetmdstrawberryfestival.com/2017-sponsor-booklet

The "Gönnerliste" is part of [the booklet written in German].

Still, it says right there on the website "Unterstützungsplatform"; similar to:
https://www.sponsoo.de/presse/5/erste-deutschlandweite-Platt...

You might as well go with website. Heck, even the BBC had one:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/mar/07/bbc.mediabusin...

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Björn Vrooman Sep 28, 2018:
Hello Wendy I didn't have an issue with "sponsor." Here's an example of sponsoring a theater seat:
https://www.shanklintheatre.com/sponsor_a_seat.aspx

And I don't see an issue with sponsorship as a noun:
https://www.sjt.uk.com/supportus/seat_sponsorship

The bigger problem is that, again, this is the name of a project. There is no list; it's a website describing to visitors what sponsorship opportunities they have. That is usually called a sponsorship booklet:
http://neahp.org/images/downloads/2016_Conference/neahp_2016...

First, we don't know whether Alan is even allowed to translate this and, second, list or book of sponsors is just wrong, in my opinion (see above).

Best wishes
Wendy Streitparth Sep 28, 2018:
Sorry, have been away. I'd just like to say that technically we are not talking here about donations or sponsorships. We are talking about people who are providing funds (sponsoring) for certain things and as such I believe they can be classified as sponsors.
Björn Vrooman Sep 28, 2018:
Alan Though I wouldn't call it donor either, Aida had an interesting suggestion, i.e., platform. Something similar here:
https://www.ges.com/trade-shows/live-event-technology/sponso...

It's an alternative if you don't want to call it a project. Heck, I don't even know whether you're allowed to change a project name unless you have been given the go-ahead by someone.

Still, Aida's discussion entries have been more helpful than anything else posted, in my opinion.

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Björn Vrooman Sep 27, 2018:
Short note You can avoid a discussion about sponsors and donors by using benefactors, which also sounds a bit more prestigious, IMO, in line with the German.

There are enough examples of Book of Benefactors and, my preference in this "present, 21st century context" (which began almost two decades ago!), Benefactors Book (yes, yes, you can add an apostrophe).

See
https://www.perse.co.uk/alumni/support-us/donor-recognition
https://twitter.com/ashmoleanmuseum/status/93442398630546227...
http://www.hardy-plant.org.uk/for-members/benefactors

You shouldn't precede the words by "to"; looks odd to me.

However, I think this has been misunderstood and the sentences posted are misleading. It's not a list of sponsors but a sponsorship booklet. Compare https://shop.bellwald.ch with the relevant EN pages.

Actually, it's not even a book but a website. See Wendy's link.

The claim that this is a composition title and you need quotation marks is false. I got the AP Stylebook 2018 at home and even if it were a list of sponsors/donors, it would count as a directory, IMO.

But it's a project(!) and requires none.

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Stuart and Aida Nelson Sep 27, 2018:
@ Alan Are you by any chance translating a website?
Stuart and Aida Nelson Sep 26, 2018:
donors online support platform 'zum' means 'go to'. IMO, this is an indication that this is an online support platform where donors can register and give onetime gifts.
Stuart and Aida Nelson Sep 26, 2018:
Difference Between Sponsors & Donors Donations and sponsorships are vital to business — particularly to charitable organizations and nonprofits which operate primarily off of monetary gifts. While the nuances between the two categories will vary based on the organization, a donation is generally a onetime gift that goes to the company’s general fund, while a sponsorship involves a renewed pledge that supports a specific cause or project.
https://bizfluent.com/info-8457971-difference-between-sponso...

This is about a onetime gift and not a sponsorship.
David Hollywood Sep 26, 2018:
as is so often the case ......
David Hollywood Sep 26, 2018:
is there really nothing that precedes or follows? the answers so far are plausible but it's a guessing game ....
Alan Dickey (X) (asker) Sep 25, 2018:
sadly there is no complete sentence. The entire 'document' consists of hundreds of jumbled and incoherent lines.
AllegroTrans Sep 25, 2018:
It would be helpful if you could post the complete sentence containing the word

Proposed translations

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to a "Book of Sponsors"

"Gönner" are sponsors. The word "Gönnerbook" appears on the Bellwald website and seems to mean a Book of Sponsors comparable to a Visitors' Book.

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Here are a couple of sentences from the Bellwald website which explain the purpose of the Gönnerbook: "Mit dem Gönnerbook Bellwald wollen wir eine Unterstützungsplattform für alle Freunde und Sympathisanten bieten, welchen die Entwicklung von Bellwald am Herzen liegt. Helfen Sie mit die Attraktivität unserer Destination weiter zu steigern. Sei dies mit dem Erwerb einer Werbefläche, einem Aktienkauf oder einem Gönnerbeitrag - Hier finden Sie die passende Möglichkeit!"

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'sponsors' rather than 'donors', because in my (British/European) experience donations are usually given without receiving anything in return, although they may be ear-marked for a specific purpose, whilst sponsors either receive benefits in terms of marketing or - as in the case of Bellwald - sponsor specific objects, such as a scooter, a brick in the construction of a building, or the participation of someone from a poor country in an international conference, and suchlike. Both donations and sponsorship can be one-off or multiple. I used to make regular monthly donations to a charitable organisation. On the other hand, I would quite like to sponsor the planting of a tree in the Hambacher Forst when RWE have cut down the existing trees.
Sorry about the speech/quotation marks or inverted commas - didn't realise that they can be scary. When I was at school in England in the 1960s and 1970s, we were taught to put book titles in inverted commas and capitalise all the main words, e.g. "To Kill a Mockingbird". In this present, 21st century context 'To Book of Sponsors' would probably be better than 'to a "Book of Sponsors".
Note from asker:
Thank you
Peer comment(s):

neutral Lancashireman : Why the "scary quotes" (American doubles!) when you've given it caps anyway?
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agree Sanni Kruger (X) : I found something similar here when I googled "Gönnerbuch":http://jfw-sm2018.ch/goennerbuch/ I used to work in fundraising (in the voluntary sector) and it was common practice to have a book of donors. I expect it's a similar thing.
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List of sponsors

Das Gönnerbook Bellwald soll als eine Online-Unterstützungsplattform für alle Freunde und Sympathisanten verstanden werden, welchen die Weiterentwicklung der Destination am Herzen liegt, schreiben die Verantwortlichen in einem Communiqué. Mit der Idee bestünde die Möglichkeit, die Sportbahnen mit einem Gönnerbeitrag zu unterstützen. Jeder Unterstützer kann dabei aus verschiedenen Produkten, wie einem Sitzplatz bei einer Sesselbahn, einem Trottinett oder einem Mountain Cart, auswählen. Jedes Produkt wird anschliessend mit einer persönlichen Widmung versehen und bei einer Jungfernfahrt eingeweiht.
https://www.1815.ch/news/wallis/aktuell/zur-unterstuetzung-d...
Note from asker:
Brilliant - thank you.
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agree philgoddard : This is easily found by Googling.
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go to book of donors

The Gönnerbook Bellwald is to be understood as an online support platform for all friends and sympathisers who care about the further development of the destination, the responsible persons write in a communiqué. The idea would provide the opportunity to support the sports tracks with a **donor** contribution. Every supporter can choose from various products, such as a seat on a chairlift, a scooter or a mountain cart. Each product is then given a personal dedication and inaugurated on its maiden voyage.
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*I changed sponsor to **DONOR** in the Deepl translation

Das Gönnerbook Bellwald soll als eine Online-Unterstützungsplattform für alle Freunde und Sympathisanten verstanden werden, welchen die Weiterentwicklung der Destination am Herzen liegt, schreiben die Verantwortlichen in einem Communiqué
https://www.1815.ch/news/wallis/aktuell/zur-unterstuetzung-d...

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPONSORS & DONORS
Donations and sponsorships are vital to business — particularly to charitable organizations and nonprofits which operate primarily off of monetary gifts. While the nuances between the two categories will vary based on the organization, a donation is generally a onetime gift that goes to the company’s general fund, while a sponsorship involves a renewed pledge that supports a specific cause or project.


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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPONSORS & DONORS
https://bizfluent.com/info-8457971-difference-between-sponso...
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